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      03-23-2012, 05:03 PM   #23
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Really BMW a 4 speed?
High torque diesel engines and electric motors don't necessarily need 8+ speed transmissions like their petrol engine counterparts.
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High torque diesel engines and electric motors don't necessarily need 8+ speed transmissions like their petrol engine counterparts.
Yeah, I know but at least a 6 speed. Hell even a 5 speed would be better.
Pretty sure it isn't diesel though.
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Dudes 4.9 rated by BMW we all know is very conservative...
That being said it'll most likely be sub 4.5s 0-60 and for an electric hybrid that's F'n awesome.

I for one would buy one if I had that kinda money. It's more about high society flash then being a halo car for anyone. Definitely a looker...
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I know they won't directly compete..... but from what I've been reading about the 2014 ACURA NSX, it is absolutely going to destroy any hybrid sports car. the setup described for the torque vectoring, the individual front wheel electric motors and turbo v-6 mid-engine mounted..

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NOOOOOOO! I WANT M version with v10!
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are you guys serious? the posts so far are pretty funny.

1) this is not meant to be a super sports car, but rather a car that the upper class can buy and still feel good about the environment, compared to buying their Prius. What do you think Brad Pitt would rather be seen driving?

2) 10,000 does seem like a pretty high number considering something like the M Coupe/Roadster only sold about 2,000 during its entire production!

3) There shouldn't be an M Version of this, as another person said, its called the M6!

4) 0-60 in 4.9 if it is truly using all that max power and AWD while only weighing 3200 lbs, it will be much quicker, like 4.2, but I have a feeling it can't use all that power at once.

The real reason BMW is making this isn't to make money but to get their Fleet MPG up so they can continue making monster M5/M3 products

and NLPAMG, this car was not made for you (and is a totally different customer base than a M6 Gran Coupe)

Exactly! Its all about meeting Euro emission standards.

Imagine you've driven 60k and the electric engine battery is drained, you would effectively be reduced to finishing your journey in a 3 cylinder hairdryer.
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I would love an explanation as to WHY no M version.

They would sell way more of that than this Hybrid. Well obvs both would be sought after.
My explanation is that BMW i and BMW M are not related at all. I would not want BMW to make an M version of i8 since it is not an M car. Instead, I want them to make a halo car that is called M1.
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They report that an earlier considered M version which would have utilized a V8 or V10 is no longer under consideration.


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you know why i don't see the point in this?? because if i could spend 100000euros on a car i couldn't care less for its MPG.. if i can a afford such car i can afford its gas..

the only logical route is make a cheap "i" like the i3 and give this a v8tt the m5 has while keeping it lightweight..
How about that you are a rich car guy who loves the environment? If I have the money, I will totally buy this car. No, it is not as fast as the other halo cars, but the fuel efficiency is amazing. I know that I am the minority. I also believe that I might be the only one who has this kinda crazy green mind in this forum, but I don't care because this is who I am. Also, this is what BMW i stands for. You can just stick with the M if you like. And yes, I want an M1...

Of course that I don't have a money so I would just stick with a fun to drive 3 that is also pretty fuel effient
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you know why i don't see the point in this?? because if i could spend 100000euros on a car i couldn't care less for its MPG.. if i can a afford such car i can afford its gas..

the only logical route is make a cheap "i" like the i3 and give this a v8tt the m5 has while keeping it lightweight..
are you guys serious? When you buy a car north of 100K you want something exotic, something different, something never been done before - this car gives you that - supercar speed and top hybrid technology, MPG to brag about to your neighbor who can't achieve 14 MPG in his Ferrari. This is a car for the super rich. It is not anyones only 100K car, it goes in a collection of cars, maybe to be driven every 15th weekend in the rotation. That is why they project 10K sales, very few can truly afford it.
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My explanation is that BMW i and BMW M are not related at all. I would not want BMW to make an M version of i8 since it is not an M car. Instead, I want them to make a halo car that is called M1.
Absolutely. Cars from each sub-brand are built from the ground up... so throwing an M V8 in an i8 would make just as terrible a car as putting the i8 power-train in an M6, for example. I'm thankful that BMW see's a car as more than just the engine - hence the need for sub-brands.
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The BMWi8 will not be converted to an M. The genetics of BMWi will filter through to M. But BMWi remains a sub-brand.
However early tests have shown the i8 can handle more power and soon you will see using this power at the ring.

BMWi is to symbolise alternative drive in an alternative way.
Having discussed this previously I will keep it short and concise.

BMWi is not an existing BMW electrified, it is all new from the ground up. Our Competition apart from Porsche have fitted electric drivetrains to existing sports cars where the options are more expansive.

BMWi is about sustainability but in a totally different direction , BMWi goes well beyond the actual cars too. It is all about the future of mobility and how we use the car in general. The most exciting thing about BMWi is that it will not ultra exclusive. Rental networks across the globe are in the process of being set up so that anyone will be able to rent and drive an i3 or i8. They will not just be mutually exclusive like our competitors.

Think of BMWi as a new revolution in alternative mobility.


Actually they don't. Look at the R8 and SLS AMG today , they are yesterdays cars. There 15 minutes are up, Even the Bugatti douchebag has become almost a characterture with its endless "fools are parted easily with their money 2 Million euro +, ltd editions"

The hot sports car of the moment is the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and rightly so because in the flesh it is beautiful it is everything a Ferrari should be.
At Geneva I mentioned to a fellow counterpart at Ferrari about the Lambo SUV and whether Ferrari would follow? I was told in this very cutting answer no because "We are Italian!, Lamborghini is German".
Word. And he said douchebag, awesome.
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even it though it will defeat its purpose! I still wana see E60 M5 engine into this beauty!
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Yeah, I know but at least a 6 speed. Hell even a 5 speed would be better.
Pretty sure it isn't diesel though.
Don't know why, I'm pretty sure the BMW engineers have a handle of what they're doing.

I'm so EXCITED for this car!!!!!!!!!!!
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      03-23-2012, 11:23 PM   #40
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Don't know why, I'm pretty sure the BMW engineers have a handle of what they're doing.

I'm so EXCITED for this car!!!!!!!!!!!
I have faith in them, just not blind faith.

I could have sworn though that it was getting the ZF 8sp
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The BMWi8 will not be converted to an M. The genetics of BMWi will filter through to M. But BMWi remains a sub-brand.
However early tests have shown the i8 can handle more power and soon you will see using this power at the ring.

BMWi is to symbolise alternative drive in an alternative way.
Having discussed this previously I will keep it short and concise.

BMWi is not an existing BMW electrified, it is all new from the ground up. Our Competition apart from Porsche have fitted electric drivetrains to existing sports cars where the options are more expansive.

BMWi is about sustainability but in a totally different direction , BMWi goes well beyond the actual cars too. It is all about the future of mobility and how we use the car in general. The most exciting thing about BMWi is that it will not ultra exclusive. Rental networks across the globe are in the process of being set up so that anyone will be able to rent and drive an i3 or i8. They will not just be mutually exclusive like our competitors.

Think of BMWi as a new revolution in alternative mobility.


Actually they don't. Look at the R8 and SLS AMG today , they are yesterdays cars. There 15 minutes are up, Even the Bugatti douchebag has become almost a characterture with its endless "fools are parted easily with their money 2 Million euro +, ltd editions"

The hot sports car of the moment is the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and rightly so because in the flesh it is beautiful it is everything a Ferrari should be.
At Geneva I mentioned to a fellow counterpart at Ferrari about the Lambo SUV and whether Ferrari would follow? I was told in this very cutting answer no because "We are Italian!, Lamborghini is German".
I don't know about saying that the R8 and the SLS are yesterdays car, because I am personally a HUGE BMW and more specifically an ///M fanatic but those 2 cars specifically are stunning in both appearance and performance in my opinion. Neither look outdated or perform in any outdated way at all.
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Just can't shake the feeling that this will be a 'sales disappointment' for BMW.
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Shouldn't this car have a quicker 0-60 time with those power and weight figures?
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104.2mpg, yes sure, maby if you drop it from a airplane.
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