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      02-24-2013, 07:02 PM   #1
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First interior listen and view of the sensations, during a ride along, by EVO.

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First impressions: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ll-electric-i3

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"It doesn’t take long to realise the BMW i3 is already at an advanced state of development. The prototype I rode in felt solid, even if there was the odd rattle from the makeshift disguise covering parts of the interior. What really grabbed my attention, though, was its overall agility and, in trying conditions with those narrow tyres, excellent traction. Watching on as Mueller drove the prototype down slip lanes, over steep gradients and around the car park of BMW’s winter test facility, it appeared to possess all the qualities that will be required to make it suited to city use, including an excellent turning circle of less than 10 metres diameter.

With a kerb weight of 1250kg, it accelerates in truly impressive fashion thanks to the ability of its electric motor to deliver an instant and quite sizeable slab of torque. Straight line performance is roughly on par with the Mini Cooper S, with BMW claiming 0-62mph in 7.2sec and 37-75mph acceleration in 6.0sec. The top speed of the production version will, however, be limited to around 93mph to protect the charge of the battery.

The impression of sportiness can largely be traced to a driveline layout that places the i3’s electric motor low down at the rear within the axle assembly. This gives it a much lower centre of gravity than conventional front engined city cars. By providing drive to the rear wheels, the front wheels are also left to do the steering without any corruption from the drive process, as with more traditional front-wheel drive.

Just how entertaining the i3 is set to be is keenly displayed by Mueller, who whips the compact hatchback for two complete laps around a giant skid pan with an armful of opposite lock and wild oversteer without ever backing off. “Despite the electrification of the drivetrain, it remains true to the BMW philosophy in terms of its dynamic character,” he offers with a smile."

More i3 reaction at Autocar.

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"From inside, the i8 possesses all the hallmarks of a proper sportscar. You sit low, below the level of the carbonfibre sill, with your legs well out in front. The seats are tight, hugging, hard shell affairs. The deep but low dashboard is very prominent. However, it is the instrument binnacle – whose mesmerising graphics alter depending on the driving mode chosen, going from a calm hue of blue in eco-pro and comfort to a racier orange hue in sport mode – that initially steals my attention as we set off down a slip road and out on to BMW’s test track.

As we rush along snow-covered roads, I notice a button on the centre tunnel marked 'E mode'. Van As obliges, depressing it to alter the drive process from petrol-electric to solely electric, in which energy is provided by a lithium-ion battery pack mounted within the centre tunnel. It is a neat trick – one that will allow drivers of the BMW i8 to undertake journeys of up to 20 miles on battery power alone, allowing them to dodge London’s congestion charge and other similar zero-emission zone charges. It also provides the swoopy coupé with near-to-silent cruising qualities.

The most impressive aspect of the new car when we leave the BMW test track and head out on public roads is the smooth interplay between the three power sources, the result, Van As reveals, of countless hours spent refining the algorithms of the i8’s so-called power electronics.

“It’s a crucial part of hybrid drivetrain development, and something we’ve put a great deal of effort in to perfecting to keep us in good stead for the future,” he says. “It’s part of the reason why we decided from the outset not to engage an outside partner, but to keep all electronic development in-house, and retain the intellectual property rights for ourselves.”

The way the BMW i8’s advanced drivetrain switches from hybrid mode (in which all three power sources are in use) to pure electric mode (in which just one power source is relied upon) at the press of a button on the centre console, is extremely impressive. In hybrid mode, all four wheels provide drive. In electric mode, only the front wheels channel drive. It all sounds remarkably complex, but you’d never know it, such is seamless interplay.

Further impressions? While it may be billed as a sportscar, the i8 boasts an excellent ride. The overall set-up is claimed to be close in terms of comfort to that set to appear on the upcoming BMW 4-series coupé. “We are aware certain customers will use the i8 every day. It needs to offer sufficient low speed compliance for commuting in combination with the control required at higher speeds," says Van As.

So, is the BMW i8 be capable of taking the fight to more conventional sportscars like the Porsche 911 Carrera? After all, it is expected to cost about £100,000, a similar price to a Carrera 4S. It’ll be another year at least before we get to steer the BMW i brand’s flagship model for ourselves but we now know that it is not only spectacularly futuristic in terms of appearance but also engagingly fast, imminently usable and comfortable enough to be used everyday."

More i8 impressions at Autocar.
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So they tell us the economy and power of the i3 and only the eco of the i8.. Something is wrong here.
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These car are so lame. What are you doing BMW?
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These car are so lame. What are you doing BMW?
Revolutionizing the sportscar world we live in.....
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So performance and handling wise what is the i8 supposed to compete against? I know they say the Carrera, but is that what BMW has developed it for or is that just the writer's logic?


Also is there going to be a way to run off of the engine only? So it will be RWD.
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Please bear in mind that the writer conducted the test and review from the passenger seat.
This was not a test drive as no one willl get behind the wheel for quite a while.
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Will be interesting to see how the i8 plays out in the real world.
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Well folks all those years of asking bmw to design a true super car has arrived. They will no doubt use this chassis to make an M model that will likely boast a larger petrol engine with the electric hybrid system making and likely will have an output of 500 hp/500 foot pounds with a 3200 pound body and all of the bmw chassis dynamics.

Perhaps even more power but no doubt within 3-4 years this will arrive and I will be all over it!
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These car are so lame. What are you doing BMW?
Not as lame as your comment...

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Revolutionizing the sportscar world we live in.....
For 20 miles until the electric range runs out. Then you are driving a slow 3 cylinder so-called sports car.
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For 20 miles until the electric range runs out. Then you are driving a slow 3 cylinder so-called sports car.
This. I think people are overlooking this.
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Revolutionizing the sportscar world we live in.....
+1 this is going to be great. Looking forward to the i4 and i5
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For 20 miles until the electric range runs out. Then you are driving a slow 3 cylinder so-called sports car.
That funny, because just as I was returning home from running out to get takeout, I thought to myself, how silly it was to burn all this gas to run across town. A multi-fueled car would have been perfect.

In response to the post-20mile charge thing, I would imagine that you would be able to run in dual-mode once you exhaust the electric-only source. That only makes sense for practicality of the car.
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That funny, because just as I was returning home from running out to get takeout, I thought to myself, how silly it was to burn all this gas to run across town. A multi-fueled car would have been perfect.

In response to the post-20mile charge thing, I would imagine that you would be able to run in dual-mode once you exhaust the electric-only source. That only makes sense for practicality of the car.
Problem it is only sports car fast for ~20 miles. The power ratings they are touting are combined ratings. So once you exhaust the electric range, which has been said to be 20 miles. You are left with a $100,000+ sports car running a slow as piss 3-cylinder engine. The i8 needs a bigger gas engine to be called a sports car.
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I wonder if BMW's cars run so hot because every friggin pre release test is done in cold temperatures.

I'm obviously being sarcastic but it really does seem like every car, even the M3 is tested in cold conditions only.
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That funny, because just as I was returning home from running out to get takeout, I thought to myself, how silly it was to burn all this gas to run across town. A multi-fueled car would have been perfect.
I can do a miniature version of this with the ActiveHybrid 3. Just yesterday, I had to make a quick trip one street over, and did the whole thing on battery power. Obviously 2-20miles would be much much nicer, something one could accomplish with the i3/i8.


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I wonder if BMW's cars run so hot because every friggin pre release test is done in cold temperatures.

I'm obviously being sarcastic but it really does seem like every car, even the M3 is tested in cold conditions only.
They test all the cars in extreme heat: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-up-close.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=q1mhER8JDmI

http://wot.motortrend.com/bmw-teases...ley-62615.html
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Problem it is only sports car fast for ~20 miles. The power ratings they are touting are combined ratings. So once you exhaust the electric range, which has been said to be 20 miles. You are left with a $100,000+ sports car running a slow as piss 3-cylinder engine. The i8 needs a bigger gas engine to be called a sports car.
i doubt BMW has thought of this design flaw.... i cant believe they made a scam car with false technical specs.... cmon guys keep in mind it will have extensive CF and light tech so even on 3-cyl without the electric engine it is going to be fast. And using the 20 mi electric engine is only for 'show off green mode' every once in a while, most of the time you will use the hybrid mode which wont burn the battery as fast as 20 miles, prob get around 80-120 miles range
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They seem cool....But the mechanic in me wonders how much the 'electrical engineers' will charge to repair these supercomputers on wheels when they inevitably break.
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I wonder if BMW's cars run so hot because every friggin pre release test is done in cold temperatures.

I'm obviously being sarcastic but it really does seem like every car, even the M3 is tested in cold conditions only.
They test cars year round, in all climates and temperatures.

As you can clearly see at: http://www.bimmerpost.com/spyshots/ (scroll through to photos from throughout the past year).
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Well folks all those years of asking bmw to design a true super car has arrived. They will no doubt use this chassis to make an M model that will likely boast a larger petrol engine with the electric hybrid system making and likely will have an output of 500 hp/500 foot pounds with a 3200 pound body and all of the bmw chassis dynamics.

Perhaps even more power but no doubt within 3-4 years this will arrive and I will be all over it!
That's the plan!

Have you seen the new Mclaren P1? It's the same hybrid concept as BMW but with 900 HP!
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sooo if the i3 is coming out this year when will it be revealed and production begin
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