06-01-2021, 09:59 PM | #67 |
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always liked the 4 grancoupe look, kind of like this, but would be first car I ever ordered de-badged. This isn't a M,
I get its the high performance version, but the M badge on there is too much (and thats coming from someone who has a X3MC, although I hate the competition badge on it). ideal garage might just be this and a cayman/boxster GTS 4.0 |
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I would wait till they fix their unreliable chargers first. While there are more locations than other networks, the chargers themselves don't work very well and have many issues.
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06-01-2021, 10:12 PM | #73 |
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Forget the outside and the battery life, what about the interior? The new screens are pretty and all, but this move of car manufacturers to rid vehicles of hard buttons and make everything on the screen and via menus is a bad move. One of the great features has been the 8 programmable buttons has been a wonderful feature. They recently got rid of the A/C button and now to turn it on and off you have to either talk to the car or wade through the menus. Who is beta testing these things?
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Why would anyone buy anything but a Tesla now? maybe in 5-10yrs when others have caught up makes more sense.
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06-01-2021, 10:57 PM | #78 | |
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This looks 100X better than a model 3, inside and out and with tax credit is similar in price to Tesla performance model (since Tesla credits are gone). granted Tesla "might" be quicker, power numbers seem to be similar though, maybe the i4 weighs a lot more? But it is a race, Tesla to improve build quality and luxury vs others to catch up on battery tech. anyone who thinks Tesla is worth more than these other companies combined is insane though (and thats what their stock value is indicating $591 billion, while BMW is $58 billion Euro, so Tesla worth 8-10X what BMW is???) |
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If you want to make it a comparison, your point is well taken. The Tesla model 3 perf is the better value. However, some are willing to pay more for superior interior, build quality, reliability, network of easily accessible dealerships for after sales service and perhaps most importantly: class. None of which the Tesla model 3 perf can offer. Although I'm not a fan of the grill but at least it doesn't look like a mazda 3. The i4 M50 will be sought after to differentiate from the more common model 3 that we see so many on the road already. In the end I think it's a slightly differentiate target clientele. |
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The car looks good, range will be plenty for most of us, a good attempt at a first sports sedan what i am curious now about will they release a proper M version of the i4 with the current battery tech or are they waiting for the 2025 solid state battery release.
But sens my lease on my i3s will end soon this might be the one to go with for me, the range is more then enough and we have enough chargers in Sweden to make it livable, for me a tesla model 3 was never an option not so much of the looks or so but there is some questionable build issues witch makes the model 3 hard to live with especially in Sweden during winters, it is simply not made for our harsh road conditions with so much salt use on the roads that it would feed the whole continent of Africa. BMWs that i have owned so far has been very reliable in our road conditions. I'm following the Tesla model 3 Swedish forums and many have reported some worrying issues in regards to quality.
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Climate control stuff is on screen now... no button to turn you AC on off or seat heating ... Even audi back tracked on this on the etron GT and had dedicated buttons back for climate control. I thought BMW was smarter than that.
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Although I can't understand a word, but this is a nice walkaround of i4. It looks very nice!
I just notice the tech data says 45.1/54.9 and 48.1/51.9 for 40 and M50, I do wonder how does it drive without 50/50? |
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From the functional standpoint, it's really nice actually.
The most surprising part is seats: they seem very primitive but they work as well or better than any BMW seat short of the multifunction seats in 5 series or up. And I'm speaking from my personal experience of 1/3/5/X5 (all had the upgraded seats, either sports or M or multifunction) vs Model 3. No buttons? BMW has just removed a bunch of them too. And Tesla's HVAC system is still miles ahead of anything available in any car at a similar price point. But yeah, it does look ugly compared to the photos in the top post. |
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I have read/heard from Tesla owners that the car's performance starts to suffer as the range decreases and/or if the car is subject to repeated hard accelerations. However, those who've driven the Porsche Taycan will tell you it will still drive like a Porsche from full charge to empty.
I have faith that BMW will not disappoint in this regard. We shall see, but the Germans tend to be conservative with their ratings and specs, whereas I feel like Tesla might be a bit misleading when you only look at their 0-60 times and range specs without also considering how the car performs through the entire battery charge cycle. I personally don't like the concept of eeking out the claimed mileage range by holding back performance to do it. As for the i4 trims, the eDrive40 seems like a far better proposition. 335hp with instant torque and RWD seems like a blast, not to mention more affordable with significantly better range. That's the one I'd buy if I were in the market.
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