Level 2 circuit and receptacle installation

Scott2.0 · 08-10-2017, 02:22 PM

I'm getting bids from electricians to install a NEMA 14-50 outlet for the 40A JuiceBox that I want to buy. I knew it was going to be somewhat high since the panel is in the back left of the house and the garage is in the front right. Nonetheless, I'm in shock over the estimates.

#1 - $1,250 to run it along the back side of the house, under the soffit in conduit, until they can get into the attic, then run it straight across and down into the garage.

#2 - $2,975 to do the same thing as above or $2,700 to run conduit on the exterior of the house, ending at the receptacle on the side of the house.

It seems like a run of around 125'. The quotes are using a 50A circuit and 6 AWG. Does this seem crazy high or was I nuts to think I could get this done for $6-800?

Almaretto · 08-12-2017, 12:06 AM

That is really high. Have you checked on rebates. Socal had $2500 rebate to cover installation and product at one point.

Most installs are around $500, but depend on amount of work required.

Scott2.0 · 08-12-2017, 09:20 AM

$75 rebate here in AZ. LOL! I am tackling it myself with the help of someone that knows what they are doing. Materials alone were $400, so I don't think the lower bid was too outrageous after all.

TimeFor · 08-14-2017, 01:10 PM

125' run is pretty far. Guessing that's why they're using 6 AWG and probably insulated wire over that distance. With 4 wires I'd do 1" hard metal conduit outside plus metal flex in the attic because of the thickness... $500-$550 in material. 5 hours @ $100/hr + Building Permits. It's reasonable if they're doing that.

Scott2.0 · 08-14-2017, 03:23 PM

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125' run is pretty far. Guessing that's why they're using 6 AWG and probably insulated wire over that distance. With 4 wires I'd do 1" hard metal conduit outside plus metal flex in the attic because of the thickness... $500-$550 in material. 5 hours @ $100/hr + Building Permits. It's reasonable if they're doing that.

We ended up running 3/4" conduit from the box, along the side of the house, through the attic and down into the garage. The guy helping me insisted on EMT conduit for the entire run which really complicated the job. All in, we spent probably 10-11 hours on it, but it's done and the i3 is loving her JuiceBox!

I have the holster for the plug that came with the EVSE, but I don't want to mount it on the side of the house (stucco is a real PITA), where the car parks, nor do I want to bring it into the garage each time. Anyone have a creative idea for a plug holster mount? I'm thinking of fastening it to a wood block that's on the end of a stake that I'll drive into the ground.

VacMan1 · 08-15-2017, 10:00 AM

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We ended up running 3/4" conduit from the box, along the side of the house, through the attic and down into the garage. The guy helping me insisted on EMT conduit for the entire run which really complicated the job. All in, we spent probably 10-11 hours on it, but it's done and the i3 is loving her JuiceBox!

I have the holster for the plug that came with the EVSE, but I don't want to mount it on the side of the house (stucco is a real PITA), where the car parks, nor do I want to bring it into the garage each time. Anyone have a creative idea for a plug holster mount? I'm thinking of fastening it to a wood block that's on the end of a stake that I'll drive into the ground.

I used a hose holder from Walmart. Way more substantial than the plastic holster. The puny plastic holster wasn't designed for holding 24' of thick cable.

TimeFor · 08-18-2017, 01:53 PM

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All in, we spent probably 10-11 hours on it, but it's done and the i3 is loving her JuiceBox!

Wow, and thats why the pros don't give estimates sight unseen. Glad it worked out!

jmg · 08-18-2017, 07:51 PM

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I have the holster for the plug that came with the EVSE, but I don't want to mount it on the side of the house (stucco is a real PITA), where the car parks, nor do I want to bring it into the garage each time. Anyone have a creative idea for a plug holster mount? I'm thinking of fastening it to a wood block that's on the end of a stake that I'll drive into the ground.

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Scott2.0 · 09-05-2017, 11:09 AM

Here's what I ended up doing:

-c- · 09-07-2017, 08:46 PM

Check with your state!

Here in Illinois they pay for almost the whole installation.

In my case my electrical system on my house was upgraded and i didn't pay a dime!

You have to dig to find all the incentives as they aren't going to tell you otherwise.

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Scott2.0 Private First Class 125 Rep 180 Posts Drives: 2014 X5 50i and 2015 i3 REx Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (0)	$75 rebate here in AZ. LOL! I am tackling it myself with the help of someone that knows what they are doing. Materials alone were $400, so I don't think the lower bid was too outrageous after all.
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TimeFor Lieutenant 180 Rep 489 Posts Drives: 2019 i3S REx Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hollywood, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW i3S REx [0.00]	125' run is pretty far. Guessing that's why they're using 6 AWG and probably insulated wire over that distance. With 4 wires I'd do 1" hard metal conduit outside plus metal flex in the attic because of the thickness... $500-$550 in material. 5 hours @ $100/hr + Building Permits. It's reasonable if they're doing that.
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Scott2.0 Private First Class 125 Rep 180 Posts Drives: 2014 X5 50i and 2015 i3 REx Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (0)	Here's what I ended up doing:
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Almaretto Major General 2374 Rep 8,364 Posts Drives: Test Vehicles Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mountain View, CA iTrader: (0)	That is really high. Have you checked on rebates. Socal had $2500 rebate to cover installation and product at one point. Most installs are around $500, but depend on amount of work required.
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