[Carac]

Originally Posted by ATSR

While it may have a lot of advanced materials and hybrid tech, it seems to me it's just an overpriced fashion item.

Then don't buy one. You sound personally offended by its mere existence. I don't think 911s are anything special but i don't think there's something wrong with people that do.

Feel like I stumbled into a vwvortex thread about GTI vs Mustang. Writing this discussion off.

Meanwhile EVO gets more traffic for being the dissenting voice on the i8. Compare apples to oranges with someone who loves apples and guess which wins.

[bernpep]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I see this video as further proof the i8 is "The Ultimate Poser Machine."

BMW did well for a first try. But really! What is so great about a 3 cylinder motor & a weenie electric boost? Nothing worth that kind of money here. At least in the E92 the motor is a work of art. Need to see way more technology to justify this price.

[TorAtle]

We all have different priorities. The reasons I did not go with an i8:

* not available for a test drive before all the 2014 allocated cars where sold
* the Chris Harris review. The i8 does not respond as a proper sportscar should at the limits.

So I went back and forth between a 991 and a Cayman GTS and ordered the latter. Which, where I live, when fully configured is so close to the price of a pure impulse i8 that it is negligible.

I would really like to have a hybrid drivetrain this time but it was not to be. Maybe next time BMW will get it right (for my wants/needs). If not then Porsche will surely do!

Enjoy your i8s!

[ATSR]

Originally Posted by Carac

Then don't buy one. You sound personally offended by its mere existence. I don't think 911s are anything special but i don't think there's something wrong with people that do.

Feel like I stumbled into a vwvortex thread about GTI vs Mustang. Writing this discussion off.

Meanwhile EVO gets more traffic for being the dissenting voice on the i8.

It seems to me that the one that appears personally offended is you. I couldn't care less if the i8 is the greatest or the worst car in the world.

Actually, the i8 is the only car that I like that BMW currently makes and I admire the all the technology and advanced materials, but IMO it's not the sports car that BMW proclaims it is.

[cs4444]

@ATSR- 'IMO it's not the sports car that BMW proclaims it is."

Below are all the excerpt from the i8 press release that mention "sports car". So were does BMW claim it will be a 911 beating raw sports car? Where does it fall short of what BMW claimed? What other hybrid car in this price range is better? All that is mentioned is its a progressive forward looking interpretation of a sports car with city car efficiency..which is exactly what BMW has made...it offers sports car like performance with incredible efficiency. Something no other car in its price range can do.

"world’s most forward-looking sports car; revolutionary interpretation of BMW’s hallmark driving pleasure; groundbreaking premium character clearly defined in terms of sustainability."

"And now the BMW Group can unveil the BMW i8 – a new, cutting-edge generation of sports car."

"The BMW i8 offers a revolutionary and future-focused interpretation of BMW’s signature driving pleasure – and in so doing, makes its case as the world’s most progressive model in the sports car segment."

"With the performance attributes of a pure-bred sports car and the fuel consumption of a small city model,"

[Carac]

Originally Posted by ATSR

It seems to me that the one that appears personally offended is you. I couldn't care less if the i8 is the greatest or the worst car in the world.

I didn't go out of my way to post my opinion in a thread about a car I have little interest in...

But point taken. It's not for everyone. But dismissing it as a sports car without acknowledging how close it comes even with the "handicap" of its hybrid system, battery weight, etc does the car a disservice and misses the point.

[ATSR]

Originally Posted by Carac

I didn't go out of my way to post my opinion in a thread about a car I have little interest in...

The purpose of a forum is to post opinions about subjects. I didn't go out of my way at all either. I have a computer right in front of me all day.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Carac

Loving all the people hating on a car they can't afford for being slower in a drag race than a 911, because that's obviously the only metric that matters. Excuse me while I go post on a LaFerrari forum about its trunk size and fuel economy.

and lack of rear seats dont forget.

[pkimM3r]

I'm wondering what this car could have been with an n54/55. wow.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by NAV8TT

This comparison is useless. Why would anyone compare apples to oranges. I hope this not gonna cause the i8 not to be on the next need for speed video game..pissed lol

apples to oranges:

[mad_max]

I'm a long term BMW owner and currently own a 911 S (in the same color as Evo's test car here). I came in wanting to see the i8 keep up or beat the 911.

But it's kinda of pointless that they took a Carrera S with the optional $17K power kit only a very few people will ever get. I'd like to see how it does against a regular Carrera S most of us own.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

apples to oranges:

Seriously get a life.

[ChiTownM]

I like these comparisons because they CAN make sense for some of us. Looking at the price point, these two cars do compete. I am on the list for the i8 and am also lusting a 911. I will get either one and unless I drive the i8, I cannot make the right decision. I am a BMW fan but rather critical about their latest cars, granted I mainly purchase M cars since the regular offerings are mainly boring and diluted to appeal to the masses.

I8 as a poser mobile....give me a break. It is breakthrough technology with some quirks since it is so new. The 911 is exactly the opposite, 50 years of evolution.

Looking at the current trend in automotive evolution, I will do my best to hold on to my S65 though.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by mad_max

I'm a long term BMW owner and currently own a 911 S (in the same color as Evo's test car here). I came in wanting to see the i8 keep up or beat the 911.

But it's kinda of pointless that they took a Carrera S with the optional $17K power kit only a very few people will ever get. I'd like to see how it does against a regular Carrera S most of us own.

It would be the same result. The 991S would walk away. Keep this is mind, R&T tested the 991S (no powerkit) from 0-100 mph in 8.4 secs, 1.3 seconds faster than this car did and nearly 2 seconds faster than the i8. And in the comparo of the 4S vs the i8, the i8 got blown out of the water. Suffice to say, even a base 991 would walk the i8, but not as badly. The only place the i8 can keep up is off a launch with its AWD and instant tq and even then the supreme traction of the 911 and LC still didnt lose much if any ground there and pulled like the i8 was standing still. Put them from a roll and the i8 will stand even less chance.
I wonder how badly is the 911 hybrid going to beat the i8? Probably wont be much of a competition there either.

[mad_max]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

I like these comparisons because they CAN make sense for some of us. Looking at the price point, these two cars do compete. I am on the list for the i8 and am also lusting a 911.

Agree. And it would've made more sense if only they picked 911 S without the optional powerkit.

[bernpep]

Originally Posted by mad_max

I'm a long term BMW owner and currently own a 911 S (in the same color as Evo's test car here). I came in wanting to see the i8 keep up or beat the 911.

But it's kinda of pointless that they took a Carrera S with the optional $17K power kit only a very few people will ever get. I'd like to see how it does against a regular Carrera S most of us own.

only .01 sec difference

[ARam]

Performance aside.

Did anyone spot and noticed the BUTTERFLY at time 3:10 landing on the BMW round front emblem?

Something tells me this car is so GREEN CAR FRIENDLY that even nature likes it. 😂

[i001947]

OK, seriously, was this really worth knowing? No!

I mean, what buyer of either one of these cars would be worrying, comparing whether the I8 could keep up with a Porsche 430 HP, Power Kit S?

If I had the money (and I don't) I would buy the Porsche 50th Anniversary Edition 911 and never buy another BMW ever. My M3 would become my DD and my Porsche would become my weekend car.

Enough said.

BTW, it sucks not having more money

[mad_max]

Originally Posted by i001947

OK, seriously, was this really worth knowing? No!

I mean, what buyer of either one of these cars would be worrying, comparing whether the I8 could keep up with a Porsche 430 HP, Power Kit S?

If I had the money (and I don't) I would buy the Porsche 50th Anniversary Edition 911 and never buy another BMW ever. My M3 would become my DD and my Porsche would become my weekend car. I'm sure I'll be happy with the i8 too!

Enough said.

BTW, it sucks not having more money

Test drove a 50th Anniversary Edition 911 and loved it. But it was too much money. Went and got a used Carrera S instead. But picking up a F80 M3 next year as the daily driver.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Disappointing but considering what it is it did alright against the Porsche.

[i001947]

Originally Posted by mad_max

Test drove a 50th Anniversary Edition 911 and loved it. But it was too much money. Went and got a used Carrera S instead. But picking up a F80 M3 next year as the daily driver.

Before I got my M3, I thought about doing that too until I found out that the 2013 M3 were the last NA 8 cyclinder model. It was either buy a used 911 S or new M3. And since I already have a SUV, I really couldn't swing three cars for myself, one for my wife and one for my son, plus college tuition. Like I said it sucks not having more money for cars.

[bernpep]

Originally Posted by ARam

Performance aside.

Did anyone spot and noticed the BUTTERFLY at time 3:10 landing on the BMW round front emblem?

Something tells me this car is so GREEN CAR FRIENDLY that even nature likes it. 😂

With digital effects they could land an elephant on the hood. Everything can be faked.