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      07-16-2018, 04:16 PM   #23
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When a dealer wants to have a "special" car on the floor for a while, they simply offer it up at a crazy price. If some uninformed nut-job buys it - Great! Otherwise, they have eye candy in the showroom until they decide to set a more reasonable price.

Lots of i8 Roadsters selling for MSRP. In fact, my dealer has a "First Edition" sitting there at MSRP.
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      07-17-2018, 04:59 PM   #24
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I discovered why they don’t restrict supply, when in Munich a week or so ago. It’s because BMW need the carbon credits that the i cars generate for them

Deprecation is not their concern. That’s owners’ problem.
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      07-18-2018, 05:07 AM   #25
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I discovered why they don’t restrict supply, when in Munich a week or so ago. It’s because BMW need the carbon credits that the i cars generate for them

Deprecation is not their concern. That’s owners’ problem.
Except when the only way they can shift the cars is by giving massive finance contributions and 0% finance

In reality with the discounted cost of finance taken into account over 4 years I paid about £80k for my brand new 2017 i8 to order...
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      07-18-2018, 11:20 AM   #26
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Except when the only way they can shift the cars is by giving massive finance contributions and 0% finance

In reality with the discounted cost of finance taken into account over 4 years I paid about £80k for my brand new 2017 i8 to order...
Fair point... but even so, after 4 years you are still looking at >50% depreciation - which isn't great on a relatively rare manufacturer's halo car.

Having seen the depreciation trend over the past 3-4 years, I actually think the majority of folks here in the UK who are actively purchasing new cars are those who are leasing them and putting them through their businesses to take advantage of the tax benefits.
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      07-18-2018, 11:25 AM   #27
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All cars used depreciate. A base 2014 Audi R8, (which has only 317 pounds of torque...for those of you who blast the i8 for being underpowered) goes for about the same price as a used i8.
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      07-18-2018, 12:02 PM   #28
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All cars used depreciate. A base 2014 Audi R8, (which has only 317 pounds of torque...for those of you who blast the i8 for being underpowered) goes for about the same price as a used i8.
It's just a question of at what rate.

For example, if you look at a McLaren 540c, which when new is priced about the same as the i8 Roadster (~GBP130k) here in the UK, is fetching ~GBP110k after 2 years. The Roadster (or coupe) comparatively will have lost 40%-50% based on the residuals that BMW UK have been setting.
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It's just a question of at what rate.

For example, if you look at a McLaren 540c, which when new is priced about the same as the i8 Roadster (~GBP130k) here in the UK, is fetching ~GBP110k after 2 years. The Roadster (or coupe) comparatively will have lost 40%-50% based on the residuals that BMW UK have been setting.
Fair enough, but I bet the maintenance costs for a used McLaren not under warranty offset its advantage in depreciation rate.
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      07-18-2018, 02:37 PM   #30
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Who would pay that much over sticker? Well I happen to know one of those people and he is a Silicon Valley guy who has so much money that $75,000 isn’t even pocket change for him. He bought an i8 when they first came out and didn’t care about the mark-up. He liked the car. He bought the car. He got to enjoy it right away. Simple. He has earned the privilege of paying whatever he wants. Some may think it foolish to pay way over MSRP for a car but those that can easily afford it without even blinking don’t spend much time worrying about what others think. Not a bad place to be.
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      07-18-2018, 04:01 PM   #31
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Fair point... but even so, after 4 years you are still looking at >50% depreciation - which isn't great on a relatively rare manufacturer's halo car.

Having seen the depreciation trend over the past 3-4 years, I actually think the majority of folks here in the UK who are actively purchasing new cars are those who are leasing them and putting them through their businesses to take advantage of the tax benefits.
for certain, the tax benefits for small business owners on low emissions vehicles has made them a target and they just get dumped back on the market after 2 or 3 years. low interest rates have made cars accessible to people who never wouldve been able to afford them in previous generations.
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      07-26-2018, 11:16 AM   #32
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Vista Motors is infamous for this, for my dad's F90 they lied about it having an AMV on the phone and on the internet ad. They pretty much said "you should have expected this type of car to go for more than sticker".
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      07-30-2018, 07:22 PM   #33
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As of July 30, there are a huge glut of unsold 2019 i8s in the USA. Expect heavy discounts in the fall.
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      07-30-2018, 11:24 PM   #34
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As of July 30, there are a huge glut of unsold 2019 i8s in the USA. Expect heavy discounts in the fall.
Over 100 so far.

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      11-25-2019, 10:02 AM   #35
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Maybe they are a couple of years to early

As roadsters get good rebates in Germany (new factory order) none would consider a markup. But with production ending April demand will ultimately go up and there is a potential for the roadster to become a classic. We might just see such prices in a couple of years
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      11-25-2019, 01:04 PM   #36
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With som 200 First Edition and only 200 Ultimate Sophisto Edition incl Coupe, the Roadster will be a relative rare car! If the total number of Roadsters will be less than 1000 in total the potential should be there...
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