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      07-10-2013, 03:58 PM   #45
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this is a cool car! i might get one! Well done again BMW !
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      07-10-2013, 08:56 PM   #46
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Chris harris review:
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      07-10-2013, 09:12 PM   #47
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And you wonder why BMW will not bring special cars like the M3CSL and M3 GTS to North America?
You just cannot do without the luxuries.
What a stupid comment.

You guys in the marketing department are clueless if you think Americans won't by a M3CSL or M3 GTS.
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      07-11-2013, 01:56 AM   #48
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      07-11-2013, 04:52 AM   #49
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reading all these reviews gives a great impression of this little bimmer

and come one, Electric Seats are not a deal breaker if you think it's a way to save extra weight on a tiny electric car...!
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      07-11-2013, 08:25 AM   #50
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The hideous weight of the batteries, the limited range, the lack of infrastructure - I know this will begin to change, but just imagine an i3 with a 1.0-litre, 150hp motor that weighed 750kg and would do 100mpg. With a range of 600 miles. Now that would be something special.
I've heard harris make this argument in just about every review of an EV that he's done. He's right. I get it, the car would be better right now if it had a featherweight petrol powered drive train, but that's missing the point of the entire i program.

In the middle of the 20th century, most locomotives were steam powered. Then, along came diesel. Diesel locomotives didn't immediately outperform their steam powered cousins either, but some railroads were forward thinking and invested in diesel technology. Diesel quickly advanced to outperform steam, and railroad operators who didn't invest early found themselves scrambling to adapt.

Obviously there are huge differences between the transition from steam to diesel and petrol to battery-electric, but we are in the very early days of this transition. Someone has to build and sell the first electric vehicles, even if they aren't wholly better than their petrol and diesel counterparts.

It's like Walter Gretzky said, "Skate where the puck's going, not where it's been."
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      07-11-2013, 08:25 AM   #51
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manual seat controls?

"There is no electronic seat adjustment. And there won’t be, even as an option. Such a modern day luxury would require electricity that could otherwise be used to extend range, argues BMW. Manual seat adjustment it is, then."

ok...i'm not sure how to respond to this...what little interest i had in this car has been washed away.

i sincerely wish BMW fail with i3 and figure out how to provide electronic seat controls that can do less damage to the mileage in a "luxury", "premium" and "contemporary" car.
too lazy to adjust the seat

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      07-11-2013, 12:02 PM   #52
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That's your principle, not BMW's, and yes it can go either way.

For example and among other things you'd except from a pricey car, I think a lot of us M[likely 3] owners would prefer manual seats for weight savings because it's an ideal characteristic given the goal of the car, and not the fact that we spent a lot of money.
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What a stupid comment.

You guys in the marketing department are clueless if you think Americans won't by a M3CSL or M3 GTS.
Purists and enthusiasts aside, most of the american market wants big, fat, luxury cars with heated seats and rear window power sun shades.
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And you wonder why BMW will not bring special cars like the M3CSL and M3 GTS to North America?
You just cannot do without the luxuries.
What a stupid comment.

You guys in the marketing department are clueless if you think Americans won't by a M3CSL or M3 GTS.
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I'm curious about the REX version. It has the 2.3 gallon tank, the recent articles and marketing I've read so far seems to indicate at least in the US is that it complies with a the HOV lane loophole in California (you can google that). Range of 160-180 miles, a little disappointed with that. For the other states in the US, I would definitely love to have an option to have a larger fuel tank, so that it can have a longer range. Lets say 200+ miles. I hope BMW would consider this.
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FWIW, most experts recommend stopping every two hours to stretch and get the kinks out - helps with maintaining attention and alertness. Guess, if you were driving this thing longer distances where the range extender was a factor, you'd plan that at a fuel stop.
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FWIW, most experts recommend stopping every two hours to stretch and get the kinks out - helps with maintaining attention and alertness. Guess, if you were driving this thing longer distances where the range extender was a factor, you'd plan that at a fuel stop.
Who does that!? It's one thing to take a quick break very few hours, but every two hours?

The i3 is a shaping up to be an incredible car when evaluated in the context of what it's meant for: city driving. Trying to stretch it in to a role that it wasn't intended for is only going to make it look bad.
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