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Another 2015 BMW i8 drive review (Autoblog)
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Parts that made an impression. I'm likin that seating position. Doesn't look too low for such a low slung car. Quote:
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These pictures are great--really like this viewpoint of how "different" everything underneath really is.
Does anyone else think those tires look somewhat skinny?
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Decreased rolling resistance to boost mpg.
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Oh I get it--that was mentioned specifically in the other review--just looks funny when they show that viewpoint, especially when you consider the wheels themselves are 20s.
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With the tech that goes into this car, maybe the LCI will get a holographic projector that makes the tires look fatter
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this is the makings of a great sports car
maybe an M1 version?
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- Make the tires look fatter with some holographic technology - Fake engine sounds to make you feel you're getting your money's worth (already done) - Every time you enter the car, you get a whiff of weed so you feel you're driving a true sports car with a V10/12/16 - An animated tree grows in your center console screen so you can feel good about saving the Earth I suppose you can add more technology to make a customer not feel bad about spending so much money. I don't know, but for the same cost, there are far better options. |
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There are obviously some good technologies here, but this is not the kind of car I want to drive especially at such a high price point.
If in the US we will have to drive cars that get 55 MPG, then heaven help us and a lot of people will have to take the bus.
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BMW is forced to produce cars like the i3 or i8 because they need to create the know-how of building cars with different type of fuels, or in 10 years they will buy the necessary technologies from other carmakers. Btw the i8 seems to be a wonderful looking car, it's a huge wast they don't build a normal version. If they putted an high power M engine in that carbon fiber beauty it could have been a rival for Audi R8, the new Gallardo or the McLaren 12c.
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Leo, I agree. This is about creating technologies in house so BMW does not have to buy them later. The situation here in the USA is different as the push for efficiency is on the vehicle design side. Fuel here is cheap compared to Europe.
What scares me is there will be no room for high performance vehicles at anything less than astronomical prices in this brave new world.
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plenty of room for improvement that's what I take from the review. let's wait for the end product
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very cool. I am really getting into the "i's". very cool technology and I am excited to see whatelse comes out about it.
we have opted to become a i dealership so I have been following all these post very closely. so far so good
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So where is all this electricity coming from?
According to the DMV, there are about 27million cars and trucks in California, http://dmv.ca.gov/about/profile/official.pdf. In San Diego where I live, during summer months we don't have enough electricity to keep our lights on and routinely have blackouts due to lack of electrical supply. Imagine if those 27m vehicles were electric how much greater the electrical drain would be. And if we could meet demand, how would it be done? Coal plants? Nuclear? And what consequences are we creating for ourselves by doing so? I'm not so sure electric is a panacea, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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All they're doing is moving the emissions - assuming there's a power plant with capacity in the first place... And how "green" is burning coal? |
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Whats more some scientist in Poland made a calculation and it turns out that traditional gasoline casue less environment damage than hydrogen... Production process of hydrogen fuel emit more CO2 than production and usage of gasoline and disel So does your BMW hydrogen7 is really environmentally friendly car? |
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Don't get me wrong. I can't get the thought out of my head: what if BMW stripped out the heavy batteries and relied solely on weight savings and a compact turbocharged petrol/diesel engine? CFRP has such tremendous weight savings potential, it's a forgone conclusion that the cars would be incredible, but this is an investment in BMW's future, not its present. What we desperately need is a battery revolution. Lithium-air and Zinc-air batteries look promising, but they've both got huge challenges to adoption outside a laboratory. Petrol is still far superior from an effective energy density perspective. Just look at the REX option for the i3. A briefcase-sized tank of petrol more than doubles the range of the car. That's so incredibly disheartening for me. I really want an electric car. Unfortunately, only Tesla seems focused on a zero-compromise approach. Yes, the Model S does make some compromises, but their design is conceptually pure electric. I consider the inclusion of a petrol engine a far larger compromise than any Tesla has made. The design language of the BMW i line up is a winner. I really feel like BMW is delivering a design from 5 years in to the future, but with a driveline that drags a 100+ year old anchor along for the ride
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This seems like it might be a nice car when it does come to market.
In truth, however, I'm not sure about my feelings regarding EVs or hybrids. On one hand, I recognize they offer efficiency benefits that surpass that of petro-chemically powered vehicles. And I accept that electricity is cheaper than gasoline or diesel. (Scientific American says that electricity costs what amounts to 75¢ a gallon.) So, over a long enough period or driving enough miles, one could get one's money's worth out of spending the extra money it costs up front to buy an EV or hybrid. On the other hand, however, it seems like battery powered vehicles is an interim step between what we have now and powering just about everything via a completely renewable energy source. Yes, yes, I know, baby steps. But babies need baby steps, do whole economies and systems? I cannot help but wonder if the resources devoted to electric vehicle technology would not be better invested to simply go directly to the end state goal. I know that's not often possible or plausible, but in this particular case, I don't really know. The other thing that somewhat disturbs me is the fact that the efficiency gains will be available first to the wealthy and not-quite-wealthy folks who in fact are the ones least in need of the overall reduction in costs. I know that historically, that's always how it's been with most any advances in technology; however, when the matter driving the movement is environmental sustainability and national economic soundness, I can't help but think that a solution that is readily available to a much broader spectrum of the population isn't a better approach. Even now, the cheapest EVs and hybrids, forget BMW's versions, are still priced well above what the average consumer can pay for a car. Yet, it's the average consumers' use of efficient vehicles that will make the difference to the economy and environment. (Please don't infer any Marxist leanings from that statement; that's not where I intended to direct any lines of discussion.)
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When we talk about renewable energy sources, we're not talking about eliminating electricity, we're talking about where the electricity comes from. Batteries are not an energy source, so even if a perfect renewable energy source were to fall in to our laps tomorrow, it wouldn't eliminate the need for batteries. I think it's unlikely that we'll see the development of any renewable resource that we would burn in an internal combustion engine, like we do with gasoline/diesel. It's far more likely that the renewable resource will generate electricity. The question is whether the entire means of power generation will be suitable for installation in an automobile, or if the electricity will be generated in large facilities and stored in some other medium (like batteries or kinetic storage devices). The only part of current-day EVs that I would say stands a 100% chance of being discarded in the future is the LiIon battery. It's limitations are too significant to sustain our needs in to the distant future. However, a LiIon battery has nothing to do with renewable energy sources. You "fill" a LiIon battery with electricity, so all the other components of a current-day EV -- the motors, the power management systems, etc -- are progress that is invested in the long term.
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