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Except you can't. Everything in automobiles is an engineering trade off. Don't you think if the engineers could have found a battery solution that would have yielded 120 miles at the time than they would have? |
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Not to be too anal retentive, but i3 isn't a (mega-)city car, in the sense that it can't be reliably recharged in the mega-est of our cities: there are just not enough EV parking spots with L2 chargers in 'Da City to own an i3.
Some will advocate that you can always stop and recharge half way to Waco (1-2 hours on L2, half a day on L1), and that's it's cool. Good luck selling that to your SO and kids. Or, using that logic, drive a BEV i3 to an autoX in Mineral Wells from your home. It will get there, may be, but wont have any juice left for the actual runs. Or for driving back home. My definition of an every day car - you can take it to an autoX, run, and come back home on one charge / tank of gas. 250-300 BEV battery will accomplish that. i3 + REX will sort-of accomplish that, with +1 gas fill-up. i3 original, or i3v2 BEV will not. a P.S.: Trading 1M for M2 yet ? P.P.S.: I had X1 as a loaner. You can do better in lots of ways ...
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The i3 is growing on me and a larger capacity would be ideal. The thought of a REX doesn't appeal to me at all... One of the (many) advantages of all-electric is no oil changes or maintenance of a complicated internal combustion engine.
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Assuming 70F ambient, mixed driving mode between town and highway (~4.3 miles per KWh on REX, 4.8 on BEV): OEM BEV today: ~90 miles on BEV. Hitch hike. OEM REX today: ~80 miles on BEV - 6 miles for REX kick-in + ~55 miles on REX == ~130 miles Coded REX today: ~80 miles on BEV - 6 miles for REX kick-in + ~75 miles on REX == ~ 150 miles Quote:
OEM BEV i3v2: ~90 *1.5 == ~135 miles. OEM REX i3v2 (assume same gas tank): ~170 miles. Codex REX i3v2 (assume same gas tank): ~190 miles. Quote:
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Awesome, I hope this makes my REx residual value tank. It has unlimited range with the car coded. I did about 420 miles the first day of ownership. I hope to negotiate another $10k off at lease-end, putting me at about $37k (total) for a $55,850 MSRP vehicle.
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This is starting to gain appeal. I drive 60 miles round trip commute so that would do. How does bmw add 50 percent to range in just a few years. Its taken as fact that batteries don't improve that much over a short time. More batteries? Aero? Weight? Lies? Jk about that last one
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01-19-2016, 08:30 PM | #33 |
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Battery Tech is improving daily! The race to produce the very best is on going.
The batteries BMW uses are stacked in groups in a flat tray, and are easily optimized by rapidly changing advancements, unlike batteries that are molded into various shapes and sizes. |
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Phone comes out, you want the latest tech. No BSing around you buy it. 2 years later... Better batteries, larger screen... Bam, you get a new one. See my point. BMW jumped into the EV market as fast as possible after 2 open test-bed cars the Mini-e and 1er Electric Coupe. |
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01-19-2016, 10:53 PM | #35 | |
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The i3 being a clean slate design, they could have offered a larger battery like what is done on the model S.
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Otherwise they may be caught off guard by their competition. I doubt they will let that happen. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way" |
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Step one was building a car suitable for short trips and commuting - a good second or third car for some households.
Step two is building a car with enough juice to overcome range anxiety, convincing a larger group of people to give it a chance. That's what they (BMW) are doing now. Step three will be building a car suitable for long trips that could theoretically become a viable option for single-car households. |
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Just dreaming here but an all electric car that you could fit in a gas engine to extend for trips would be neat. Almost like putting in a suitcase - the gas motor just clips in and when not in use it stores in the garage. I've owned a lot of great BMWs but now that I've experienced all-electric driving I can't go back - so either BMW needs to produce a compelling electric car (functional for family/clients, and useful range combined with a great design) I will stick with what I have. BMW, make me a smaller more luxurious Model S please!
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this car is really in a niche market! my mother loves her i3 Rex
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Your model 3 is coming. It will debut in March...Plan on waiting two long tesla years to get one.
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If they did this on Their plug in hybrids, then woah!
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