[ORIGIN M.]

Awesome... Now finally I will be able to climb in out of it !

[goj]

Tease me with a mid-engine B58 + electric motor

[Wolf]

Wtf. I haven't been following the site regularly and haven't posted anything since ages and this car hasn't been released already?! And yes BMW, 150k$ owners really do give a crap on 40+ mpgs ????

[Nachbar]

Originally Posted by Wolf

Wtf. I haven't been following the site regularly and haven't posted anything since ages and this car hasn't been released already?! And yes BMW, 150k$ owners really do give a crap on 40+ mpgs ????

Yes

[MalibuBimmer]

The BMW NA website still shows the spyder as a concept car, not a future model.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by goj

Tease me with a mid-engine B58 + electric motor

Spot on.

There's a reason why such a beautiful car hasn't sold like it was anticipated to.

Perhaps it has to do with many cars being quicker and half the money (e.g. RS3), plus you could buy an additional 320d for commuting and still have enough spare cash to insure, fuel and tax them both for close on 5 years.

Next gen i8 needs to pretty much double the power output if BMW wants to sell more

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by clbmw

Spot on.

There's a reason why such a beautiful car hasn't sold like it was anticipated to.

Perhaps it has to do with many cars being quicker and half the money (e.g. RS3), plus you could buy an additional 320d for commuting and still have enough spare cash to insure, fuel and tax them both for close on 5 years.

Next gen i8 needs to pretty much double the power output if BMW wants to sell more

lol...700hp, 840 lb/ft...and what, keep the same price? Keep the same efficiency? Yea, they don't need to do that to sell more.

BMW has continued investing in it, as seen by this new Spyder model...do you think they don't know what they are doing? Why would they waste money on the platform if they gain nothing from it?

The fact that you compare to an RS3, how is that remotely the competition? The Tesla P100D beats supercars at a fraction of the cost, do you think their sales are hurting because of Tesla? It is the age-old excuse of someone who never intends to get one..."I can get something faster for cheaper"...well then get it. The i8 was never intended to be the fastest, nor was it marketed as such.

The i Series is literally described as a visionary lineup to showcase the direction BMW wants to go in with regards to electric/hybrid drivetrains and efficiency in design. In fact, it's right here: https://legacy.bmw.com/com/en/newveh.../overview.html

[Anthony3DHeli]

Can't wait to see!!
But I am really looking forward to the high performance M variant!!

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by skinrock

lol...700hp, 840 lb/ft...and what, keep the same price? Keep the same efficiency? Yea, they don't need to do that to sell more.

BMW has continued investing in it, as seen by this new Spyder model...do you think they don't know what they are doing? Why would they waste money on the platform if they gain nothing from it?

The fact that you compare to an RS3, how is that remotely the competition? The Tesla P100D beats supercars at a fraction of the cost, do you think their sales are hurting because of Tesla? It is the age-old excuse of someone who never intends to get one..."I can get something faster for cheaper"...well then get it. The i8 was never intended to be the fastest, nor was it marketed as such.

The i Series is literally described as a visionary lineup to showcase the direction BMW wants to go in with regards to electric/hybrid drivetrains and efficiency in design. In fact, it's right here: https://legacy.bmw.com/com/en/newveh.../overview.html

Ok maybe double was a bit of a wild suggestion. Of course they aren't giving up on the i8, this new Spyder (Targa) is a way of reaching more customer and generating more sales!

BMW is all about selling more and more profit. More choice = more sales. Power is the obvious next step. Even BMW talked about an i8S after lots of "where is the M (marketing) version?" questions.

I love the i8 in terms of its looks and I hope we see more on the road

[N & M]

Originally Posted by skinrock

0-60 in 4 seconds, mid-range acceleration of 50-75 in 2.6, top speed of 160...all with the ability to average over 45+ mpg (personal results) on the highway.

I will never understand the comments about its lack of performance. I guess the bar is just too high these days.

The car is amazing. It invites all this negative feedback because it was given a body style that says exotic or super car. If this were a grand coupe or even a standard coupe people would not judge it so harshly.

In my opinion something that rides low with doors that scissor open and costs that much should be in the same performance bracket as 488 not an M4.

I really hope BMW learns from this and really takes this bold and amazing concept to its deserved level in the next generation.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by N & M

The car is amazing. It invites all this negative feedback because it was given a body style that says exotic or super car. If this were a grand coupe or even a standard coupe people would not judge it so harshly.

In my opinion something that rides low with doors that scissor open and costs that much should be in the same performance bracket as 488 not an M4.

I really hope BMW learns from this and really takes this bold and amazing concept to its deserved level in the next generation.

I think you've hit the nail on the head here

[AwesomeM3]

From the photos, however, it looks like it uses a power-retractable hard top, with a panel over the cabin that lifts up and stows away in back. A carbon fiber roof panel would be particularly light, making for little weight shift in the car when stowed.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/b...les-auto-show/