11-27-2013, 04:39 AM | #1 |
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I3 only gets 4 star safety rating
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11-27-2013, 06:56 AM | #2 |
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Not good for publicity. But it has to be said that the only reason why it got no five-star-rating is the pedestrian protection (i3 scores 57 %, 60 % needed for five stars).
It's a bit funny, because BMW was among the first automakers which compromised their exterior design by adding those ugly horizontal gaps in the bonnets for better pedestrian protection. Probably this doesn't work with the i3, because of its different design, but there are other solutions like active bonnets. Euro NCAP raised the standards for pedestrian protection this year, so if the i3 was tested last year, it would have got five stars. On the other hand, many cars which were rated five stars in the last years, would also score only four stars this year. |
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11-27-2013, 07:22 AM | #4 | |
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The new BMW city car achieved four stars on its test, with Euro NCAP commenting that in severe side impacts protection of the chest for adult occupants was "weak", and that the front seats and head restraints provided only marginal protection against whiplash in a rear-end collision. Not a car I would want to drive. All down to lack of support between doors I guess?? |
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11-27-2013, 09:00 AM | #5 | |
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In the ratings for side impact and whiplash protection the X3 even scored a bit less than the i3: The X3 has been rated 5 stars - in 2011. Today it would receive 4 stars, like the i3 - only because of the higher standards for pedestrian protection. Those kind of ratings can be deceiving. If the i3 scored a bit better in pedestrian protection, it would have got 5 stars and I bet, there wouldn't be a discussion about its safety. |
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11-27-2013, 09:18 AM | #6 | ||
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I also always had my doubts about that lack of central pillar between the doors. I cancelled my order and pleased I have. |
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11-27-2013, 11:37 AM | #7 |
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The more I think about this the more I am amazed they have designed a car with such poor pedestrian protection especially as pedestrians will find it difficult to hear an electric car.
Wonder if the front page will put up an article or try to ignore the report |
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11-27-2013, 12:25 PM | #8 |
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If you look at the film, you will see that the neck is stable all the way, while in the Mazda 3 that scored at the top, the head is lifted up, so I cannot understand the measurements..
Also the deformation is significantly less than any of the other, just as BMW promised. Btw the score is better than the current Mercedes Benz E-class, considered by many to be safe enough. |
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11-27-2013, 12:40 PM | #9 |
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And we should buy the city safety package, so we don't hit the pedestrians in the first place + other options. But the car gets no points for this. I think Tristan Honeywill pointed out the following, that captures my view: A lot of would-be electric car drivers will decide that a four-star car with the right safety assist options is better than a five-star car with none.
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11-27-2013, 01:00 PM | #10 | |
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Even a basic Dacia Sandero got 4 stars and they cost only 25% of an i3 !! If you really want an i3 you will rationalise the poor score but standing back and looking at this objectively BMW has messed up here. 2bn Euro development on class leading technology and they didn't get the 5 stars every other new model they make gets |
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11-27-2013, 03:04 PM | #11 |
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This is not completely correct, BMW1, X3 and X1 have similar or lower score on whiplash and pedestrian protection. 0 at pelvis level is probably because i3 has as high impact point as a SUV. As mentioned, similar low score has MB E, even not a SUV. In Norway i3 is 25% cheaper than an BMW 1, with 170hp
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11-28-2013, 03:38 AM | #12 | |
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I also think for a car that is silent to have such poor protection for pedestrians is very poor engineering given the efforts being made by safety authorities to save lives |
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11-28-2013, 04:57 AM | #13 |
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All these 3 cars would get 4 stars today.
X3: 88,83,53,71 + whip: 2.6 + ped: 19 X1: 87,86,64,71 + 2.5 + 23 1: 91,83,63,86 + 3.0 + 23 i3: 86,81,57,55 + 2,8 +21 So for pedestrians, X3 is worst, and i3 is #2 for whiplash, and the main difference is that they changed the safety assist scoring criterias. The lack of speed limited (that I never use anyway) being standard, and seat belt warning in the back is the only thing preventing a 5 star rating. One of them would probably be enough. For me, this is as safe as any other BMW as standard, and safer than most, with all options. |
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11-28-2013, 06:23 AM | #16 |
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OK, this is another topic, I think. I want a short, but specious city car, with narrow turning circle. Then I think it is difficult to give the pedestrian the same nice and soft ride as my BMW 5 gives them. Thats why such an optimal city car needs to have a city safety package instead. VW T5 in the same test round got 32%. It is simply to short distance from the hit, until they hit the window area. Best in 2013 is Lexus IS 300h, with 80%, but red around the edges as i3. Max score this round was Maserati Ghibli, nice and long, with 74%, But the window area is greener on the i3, and the bumper is soft, so it is just a matter of hitting them in an optimal way :-)
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11-28-2013, 03:17 PM | #18 |
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Again the result for pole impact in this small car without B-pillar is equal or better than X3, Volvo XC60, Mercedes Benz E-class and many other cars regarded as safe...
I think it is impressive :-) Again, if they just added the speed limiter that no-one uses, i3 would got a 5 star, and we would not have had these discussions and bad press. |
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11-28-2013, 03:33 PM | #19 | |
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Strange isn't it how silent BMW has gone on these results. If it had been 5 stars this forum would have had a big splash on it !! Seems like they only publish good news?? So come on BMW give us your official explanation on these results please. |
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11-29-2013, 01:33 AM | #20 | |
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The official press release was out yesterday, stating it got 5 stars in the parts of the test that matters... https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__8601 |
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11-29-2013, 02:36 AM | #22 |
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I agree that it is a little bit in the grey zone not to mention that the total was 4 stars, but they just state the same thing that I have tried to show, that on car safety they got 5 stars. And on pedestrian and safety systems they just ignore it, because EuroNcap is not willing to give them credit for all the safety systems, even if they are standard.
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