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But more than likely if this goes to production because of the weight of the batteries, I agree it will probably be a few hundred pounds heavier. But I doubt you will be able to feel it if they add all that torque and tech I to it. A lot of ifs here lol
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As much as I'd like to see a 100% electric i8, I really don't feel the technology is there yet. That would require a pretty massive battery and that would ruin the balance of a car. Ideally, it would be best to have an S55 powered i8 hybrid that could easily put down 450-600hp and have a very usable range. That would be better than 100% EV with the current battery technology.
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But yes, totally in agreement that adding that much power, which the title of the thread claims is all electric is going to add a lot of weight. The 918 is around 3700 lbs or 3620 give or take with the weissach package. The i8 also isn't packing 300 section rubber, a v8 motor and only has one electric motor vs 2 or a lot of the other tech the 918 has and those all add weight. I did see a weight of 3455 for the i8. Still not a light car given it only has a 1.5 liter 3 cylinder and not nearly the electric power output of the 918. This hypothetical car will likely be 3700-3900 lbs. You don't feel the weight in the 918 but Porsche isn't all electric and that has always plagued cars like the Tesla in handling. Porsche is also a bit more evolved and sophisticated when it comes to suspension tuning but the 918 won't be rivaled by any means. And again, the 918 came out in 2014 with tech from many years before. Porsche has moved on beyond that at this point. Last edited by Motorsportenterprise; 08-14-2016 at 05:43 PM.. |
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Tesla's top models are around there already no? With the 100-kWH models coming soon too, it'll be interesting to see the new roadster vs new i8
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I'm not really happy to hear this... The I8 in it's current iteration is literally one of a kind. Find me another AWD, 2 Door, 350+ HP, Hybrid vehicle that looks like an alternate Lamborghini skin. There isn't one. Not to mention I've never seen a charging station in my state, and it's the frozen north, so batteries suck here. Honestly, I shouldn't be considering anything with batteries at all, but the i8 has been particularly compelling up until now. I don't really see them completely redoing the car next year... Didn't it take BMW like 2 years to go from announcing the i8 to even releasing it?
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I realize that the electric is the future but wouldn't you all want a halo 800hp twin turbo v8 snorting and popping wrapped inside a carbon fiber monocoque? You know the poster cars from your childhood where super cars that were intentionally impractical?
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What an asinine and ignorant comment. BMW is light years ahead of Tesla in terms of automotive build quality and technology. What did Tesla do that is so revolutionary? Popularize EVs? An i3 has more advanced technology in its CF chassis than a Model S. You're an idiot and obviously someone who drinks the Telsa coolaid. All they've managed to do is mass produce EVs and they're not even good at it. Look at the POS Model X for all the proof you need.
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Wait till you hear about more crashes from MB, since they just released Drive Pilot, which is a Autopilot-look-a-like. It's not as stable, reliable or useful, but hey, it made it to production Sometimes you want to question yourself, is someone final release better than other's beta? Quote:
I think both pack great amount of tech On the other hand, i'm a bit surprised with the amount of energy i3 requires to get moving Tesla with almost double the size, the weight, the seats, and triple amount of cargo uses very similar amount of energy I hope it's as safe as well Now, back to topic... It would be great if BMW did full-electric version of i8, but i have doubts Not sure what the source of the whole article is, however, it would be surprise to me if we saw something sooner than 5 yrs from now Last edited by AndreyATC; 08-15-2016 at 12:35 PM.. |
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I have a Tesla Model X P90D (ludicrous) and the technology is far more advanced than anything in any of my current or past BMW's (M6, M4, X6M)... So exactly what technology do you think any BMW is "light years ahead" with? I can make you a very long list of advanced Tech in my MX, but lets see what you got - shall we? ...and as far as materials, design, and build quality goes, I would definitely put Tesla in the same category as BMW. ...and yes, My Model X P90DL is by far the quickest car in my garage! 3.2 secs 0-60 in the family SUV! It'll suck the blood out of the back of your eyeballs when you launch it. ...with groceries in the back. ...and 250 miles of range. The i8 is only good for 4.2 seconds and definitely no groceries... Tesla has been building cars for years that BMW should have produced in the first place. The i8 is totally impractical and wont even keep up with either the Tesla Model S or X. The i3 has little or no useful range and is not particularly comfortable to drive (albeit a bit more practical). I love BMW's (I really do), but they simply don't make a compelling or competitive (on any level) EV at the moment... Too little, too late. Maybe there's hope in the future though... (That's what led me to check in on this thread...)
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