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The steering gives excellent feedback and the initial turn-in is limited by the tire construction and size. I'd be very interested to drive it with a proper set of tires. As far as the track goes, I seriously doubt that the i8 ever sees a track for more than a few experimental laps. It is not the proper tool for the job, period. Cheers-mk |
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07-08-2015, 11:16 AM | #46 |
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I will still take the full mechanical steering of a Lotus, and the assisted steering of my Roadster M over the electrically controlled ones any day. There is no feel. But the i8 wheel at least "makes sense" where my Audi sometimes "helps" me right off the hairpin turn.
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07-08-2015, 12:33 PM | #48 | |
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As it pertains to strictly track performance and If I ever were to care less about pollution and other environmental issues, the Porsche 911 Turbo is worthy car among track cars. It's a workhorse that has superb-predictable handling, power and grace on the track. Plus it's a heck of a lot cheaper to own and maintain than some of the supercars in the market. But for me, the i8 has exceeded my personal needs and expectations for a more environmentally friendly sports vehicle. If I ever get the track car itch, I've learned from experience (personally had a car that was track worthy sitting in the garage collecting dust and taking up real estate), it's more practical to borrow one of my friends' track oriented cars for that rare track occasion which occurs less than 2-3 times a year for me. Last edited by YWGT3; 07-11-2015 at 06:32 PM.. |
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07-08-2015, 02:03 PM | #52 |
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My i8 uses the 215 F and 245 R as well. Quite the contrast of the upgrade 255 F 325 R I have in my M6 but they will do for the time being. What tires do 2003 Z4s come with?
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07-08-2015, 09:26 PM | #53 |
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Good comparison.
Although, I'm a little disappointed the Miata wasn't included. It's a great bang for the buck, great driving feel, much more nimble than all 3 cars and is great with fuel efficiency. It's also very quiet. (Where the fck do we draw the line with these types of comparisons?)
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I don't know if people realize how silly the comparisons some of you make between the i8 and cars like Prius and Miata comes across to those of us who know better. I mean no one who owns an i8 goes around bashing other "sports" cars like the M cars, we don't go around discussing Porsche and R8s. Yet for some reason, as I keep saying, the i8 seems to be a trigger for a lot of people.
If you seriously think i8 is not in the league of "true sports car," whatever that means to you, then great. Don't worry about it, it's just a glorified Prius or Miata. Every award, every test drive, every person who walks away impressed is just wrong. Every article in which despite i8 not being as good in every "quantifiable measure" the as the cars you worship and still comes away the winner by experience is just a trick. Those of us who can have any car we want yet choose the i8 are just deficient in some way. Maybe we will wise up one day and buy a real car. |
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It's just when I see it compared to sportscars like the AMG GT S or the Porsche Turbo here that I disagree with even comparing them. They're in two entirely different categories. The i8 is not a sports car, even if it looks that way.
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And yet the comparisons are made because NOT being a pure sports car it actually manages to hold up to cars that are pure sports car, and yet offer things a pure sports car can not for daily driving. Including a driving experience unlike other cars (with one or two exceptions). |
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Alpina_B3_Lux To me the i8 feels every bit as much a sports car as my M6 does. Albeit slower than my M6 it feels every bit a sports car in a different and unique way.
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But at least the M6 you can do WOT runs on the Autobahn for longer than 10 minutes without half the power missing all of a sudden. The i8 is nice if you live in countries with low speed limits. For me here in Germany it's simply not an option.
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Not in my book it doesn't. But again, my requirements aren't everyone's.
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Perhaps, BMW did not provide you with an optimally charged i8 before your full day test drive (which I find quite impressive. My test drive: for the i8, to my dismay, was for only around the block; for the Audi R8 5.2 was for less than 1/2 hr.; and for the Merc GT 1/2 hr. as well). Let me know which dealer offered you the full day test drive as I have a buddy in Hamburg who would like to try out the i8 for a day as well. Last edited by YWGT3; 07-10-2015 at 12:17 AM.. |
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I am fortunate to have both a 911 turbo and an i8. The turbo is a 6 speed manual and there is as much discussion about manual vs the new auto/manual as whether the i8 is a sports car or a family coupe. Porsche dropped manuals because they did not want to produce them as opposed to no customer demand. The reality is there are many greats cars and one can love or dislike each and every one. The i8 and the turbo were never built to compete with each other so the comparisons kinda fall flat.
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Maybe. But I don't really care about other people's definition. It's me that buys a car and not other people, so for me it's only my own definition that counts. I hope that's clear enough now.
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It was when you decide to keep repeating it as something we should all agree with is when I decided to clarify my position. I won't speak for others here. |
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Many Porsche people, of which I am one, will tell you the 997.2 is the best 911 ever built. How many have you owned? |
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