[VirtualGuitars]

Full story via State of Charge YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/lrDDtJHJHbw

[Paladin1]

Give credit to EM, whatever else - pretty elegant solution for future-proofing...

[Pawtato]

Nice product, I was just thinking about how to deal with a possible NACS connector three years down the road as I am waiting for my electrician buddy to come back from his business trip.

[FultonMDUSA]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

Full story via State of Charge YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/lrDDtJHJHbw

Unfortunately, it uses a redesigned mounting plate, which means swapping out an older Wall Connector will require re-wiring.

He also believes this new Wall Connector, as well as previous ones, will now be updated to have App control. Right now, it only has very limited WiFi access.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by FultonMDUSA

Unfortunately, it uses a redesigned mounting plate, which means swapping out an older Wall Connector will require re-wiring.

He also believes this new Wall Connector, as well as previous ones, will now be updated to have App control. Right now, it only has very limited WiFi access.

I’m perfectly OK with only managing it while I’m home. This is the same with the BMW Wallbox which is actually worse because it requires Bluetooth. It’s not like you have to update these things very often and you would probably want to be home while doing so. After all, you can still monitor the charging cycle on your BMW while you’re away.

[FultonMDUSA]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

Full story via State of Charge YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/lrDDtJHJHbw

Also, I just have to say I had to chuckle when I saw a Tesla related post from someone who was very recently upset about other Tesla related posts!

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by FultonMDUSA

Also, I just have to say I had to chuckle when I saw a Tesla related post from someone who was very recently upset about other Tesla related posts!

Touché. But unlike “that other person”s” repeated posts, this product will actually work with our BMWs and I will only need to post this once! 😂😂😂

[Barry123]

I would never buy (another) Tesla product.

[Road Trip]

Thanks VirtualGuitars for finding and posting this. For folks who now or later are going to have a combination of Tesla and J-1772 plugs, this will be useful, especially if they do not have a home service capacity for two circuit breakers and do not want to be going back and forth with individual adapters.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by Road Spark

Thanks VirtualGuitars for finding and posting this. For folks who now or later are going to have a combination of Tesla and J-1772 plugs, this will be useful, especially if they do not have a home service capacity for two circuit breakers and do not want to be going back and forth with individual adapters.

I’m truly amazed that no one has thought to make one of these before now. If this would have been out in January, I would’ve opted for it instead instead of My BMW Wallbox.

[Road Trip]

What is bizarre abuiut the BMW one, their “Mailbox,” is that while the BMW can accept 48 actual amps entering/charging up the car, yet the Mailbox only can serve up 40A — meaning it takes about an extra hour to fully charge a depleted iQ battery compared to what the car could easily take if one use this Tesla one, a ChargePoint 60A rated one, etc.

[ilya4min]

This is very interesting. Clearly, Tesla is moving very fast on the business opportunities they created with NACS standardization. This has instantly become THE home charger to get for everyone in the US. I hope they’ll move as aggressively to make SuperChargers the default DC chargers for everyone. This will put some well-needed pressure on the current market players and accelerate the new JV charging progress.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by Road Spark

What is bizarre abuiut the BMW one, their “Mailbox,” is that while the BMW can accept 48 actual amps entering/charging up the car, yet the Mailbox only can serve up 40A — meaning it takes about an extra hour to fully charge a depleted iQ battery compared to what the car could easily take if one use this Tesla one, a ChargePoint 60A rated one, etc.

I’m pretty sure you meant to say wallbox and not mailbox. It’s the same specs as the flex charger that comes with the vehicle. I charge overnight when I need to, so I don’t know notice the extra hour that it might take. I find it highly reliable by the way.

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by Road Spark

What is bizarre abuiut the BMW one, their “Mailbox,” is that while the BMW can accept 48 actual amps entering/charging up the car, yet the Mailbox only can serve up 40A — meaning it takes about an extra hour to fully charge a depleted iQ battery compared to what the car could easily take if one use this Tesla one, a ChargePoint 60A rated one, etc.

In practice, it’s not that big of a deal. It’s very uncommon to charge from 0-100% and when plugging in overnight, the car will be topped off well before morning. We have two EVSE, a 48A unit and a 40A unit. The 40A unit can also split power and charge two cars simultaneously at ~20A each. Most weeks I just grab the EVSE that is closest to the car that needs a topping. However I also like to prepare for unlikely scenarios and would have installed an 80A if it was practical but I would have had to upgrade my panel.

[ApplePhy]

yes but when will BMW finally commit to NACS like their German counterparts??!!

[VirtualGuitars]

Here’s his impressions video update as well as a link to the charger itself. $595 USD is not bad considering it can charge all vehicles.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/universal-wall-connector


https://youtu.be/HRrKeFJC3v4

[akin67]

I starred but did not finish watching the video. But from previous State of Charge videos I know the Tesla chargers are rated very highly. The previous Tesla chargers were not "Smart Chargers". Do we know if this one is? There are utility rebates to help offset cost of installing chargers for as much as $1500 provided you install an approved charger.However, Tesla chargers are not on the list, which is why I recently had a Chargepoint installed. If you are already wired it makes great sense to buy this.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by akin67

I starred but did not finish watching the video. But from previous State of Charge videos I know the Tesla chargers are rated very highly. The previous Tesla chargers were not "Smart Chargers". Do we know if this one is? There are utility rebates to help offset cost of installing chargers for as much as $1500 provided you install an approved charger.However, Tesla chargers are not on the list, which is why I recently had a Chargepoint installed.

Perhaps you should finish watching the first video. He does discuss the app and its future capabilities. It’s also worth noting that it doesn’t start shipping until October.

[NomoTesla]

Tesla's wall connectors are shit if you live in a hot climate. They regularly overheat. The current models are built to a maximum rating of 48A. The older Gen 2 units (which I have) are built to deliver 80A and have much beefier wiring that doesn't overheat at 48A. Consider yourselves warned.

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

Tesla's wall connectors are shit if you live in a hot climate. They regularly overheat. The current models are built to a maximum rating of 48A. The older Gen 2 units (which I have) are built to deliver 80A and have much beefier wiring that doesn't overheat at 48A. Consider yourselves warned.

It is hard to find good tests on the home chargers available out there. The basic cold weather test done by Tom at State of Charge is better than nothing, and helps snuff out cables that will be frustrating to use in cold weather for those of us who are concerned with that, but actually doing extreme weather tests is hard which is why people who do experience issues in the cold or hot weather need to be vocal about them. (Thanks again NomoTesla for letting everyone here know about the gen 3 issue)

I was glad that a local consumer protection company here did tests around the time I was looking for mine, and their tests showed that several of the EVSEs, including one I was recommended by a family member to get, literally stopped working during their cold weather testing (-40 weather). That included a Tesla charger gen2 with a J1772 connector; this one failed because the connector got stuck and wouldn't release from the base while the others just didn't work even though you could plug them in. They also did hot temp tests and didn't note any issues but that is not as much of a problem around here and is harder to properly simulate in a warehouse. Sure you can bring the ambient temps up by simply heating the room, but that's not the same as having hot ambient air AND the blazing hot sun beating down on your charger and cable.

Back to the Tesla charger, it's a neat idea. I hope others get inspired by it. Looking at it in the video from the OP, I have some hesitation about their mechanism working well when exposed to icy conditions as I don't see it being well protected, especially given their history of skipping proper cold weather tests like with the model Y heat pump failures.

[VirtualGuitars]

I would consider one of these if I was in the market for a new home charger.

[FultonMDUSA]

I have a Tesla Gen 3 wall connector. Using a 3rd party app, it shows temperatures, and I've never had issues, but then again, I live in Maryland, which doesn't typically experience extreme temperatures.