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Originally Posted by GuidoK
Yes I am.
Verstappen got penalty points (so blame) for the following crashes:
according to https://f1.fandom.com/wiki/Penalty_points
2015 monaco GP (0:24):
crash with grosjean, mainly totalling his own car (he hits the barrier hard):
2017 hungarian GP (0:24):
slight touch to his teammate RIC, damaging the cooler in the side pod:
2018 Chinese GP (0:02):
VER and VET collide in a slow corner. Slight touch and both can continue
2018 Italan GP (3:55):
VER and BOT collide. rear wheels touch. no real damage, both continue and score points.
So these are the damages VER is to blame for.
The crash with Groshean was the heaviest. Don't know the damage to GRO car, but VER car was probably scrap (at least the full front and monocoque)
The rest are race incidents as far as the FIA is concerned or the other party was at fault.
And I think the combined $$ damage from these crashes is less than the BOT hungaroring crash. Certainly if you substract damage to VER car in the crashes he caused. |
It isn't just points and penalties. It's the carnage he's caused all together. Remember...they changed the rules on driving standards in the braking zone because of the BS he did with multiple moves. He still does it on occasion but the behavior has been normalized so he isn't called on very often. He drives like a karter...not a WDC.
He has a very low racing IQ and goes red mist when approaching another car. No long-term thought processes in evidence. Look at the OCO incident.
This is an excerpt from an opinion piece which appears in Silver Arrows dot net. It clearly delineates the differences in similar circumstances between Sir Lewis and Max. Read without your Max lenses on and only look at the circumstances of engagement. Please read them both and answer the question at the end.
http://www.silverarrows.net/opinions...G2vTNd4FtwPCmE
Hamilton vs. Verstappen at the British Grand Prix
Lewis’ battle with Max at the beginning of the British Grand Prix demonstrated that, no matter what else happens in the 2021 season, the seven-time champion will always have an advantage over the Dutch driver. And I’m not talking about racecraft or who was right or wrong in this instance, I’m talking about the differences in approach, which in part stem from a difference in experience.
Lewis Hamilton entered the British Grand Prix with a 32 points deficit to Verstappen. It was a race he had to win, or at least finish ahead of Max. When the two collided on Lap 1 of the race, Lewis, who would usually back down if the move is too risky, had no choice but to go for it. And it wasn’t an instinctive move, Lewis knew what he was doing. He needed to finish ahead of Verstappen, and the risk/reward ratio leaned heavily toward the reward side at this point.
In the case of Max, he had a comfortable lead in the championship. Even if he thought he was in the right when entering a risky situation, he could have afforded to concede the position, because the risk was too great. Even a P2 finish would have left him firmly at the top of the standings. What do you think Lewis would have done if he was in Max’s position?
We all know what happened then, both drivers risked a DNF as a collision was inevitable. Unfortunately for Max he was the one that lost everything and saw his lead in the championship diminish to just eight points. He could have easily lived on to fight another day.
Hamilton vs. Alonso at the Hungarian Grand Prix
This brings us to Hamilton’s battle with Alonso in Hungary, and the Spanish driver’s ‘moment of glory’. On Lap 32 of 69 Lewis found himself in P5, behind two-time world champion Fernando Alonso, who was in a significantly slower Alpine, on a track on which it is notoriously difficult to overtake.
Lewis’ main championship rival Max Verstappen was running in P10 at the time. If Hamilton remained in P5, while Max remained in P10, Lewis would still regain the championship lead.
Fernando Alonso had decided to make the overtake as difficult as possible and he proceeded to swerve around the track and do everything in his power to keep Lewis behind. There were several close encounters between the two drivers, which didn’t lead to a collision only because Lewis backed out. And why did Lewis back out, when he didn’t a race earlier with Verstappen? Because this time Alonso had nothing to lose, and Lewis had everything to lose.
You see, through his experience and common sense, Lewis knew that if he ended up in the gravel while battling Alonso, he would lose a perfect opportunity to regain the lead in the championship and go into the summer break with a big psychological advantage. It would be worth more for Lewis at that point to finish in P5 than to not finish at all.
This is why Alonso’s ‘glorious accomplishment’ of holding up Lewis for several laps actually means nothing. Lewis was ready to concede at any point if the manoeuvre seemed too risky. A man with everything to lose was fighting a man with nothing to lose.
What do you think Max would have done if he was in Lewis’ position?