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      07-26-2023, 08:22 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Tch-Nrd View Post
Are people really bragging about getting 300 miles before needing to recharge?
I hope that's not a direct comparison to ICE BMWs?
If so, I get just over 600 miles (at over 70mph) in my X5 before I need to refill.
It's not a brag but more a reality that humans need to stop for breaks. It's rare that I go 3-4 hours on a caffeine fueled road trip without a bio break especially if I have passengers. I don't drive 70mph and still get 300miles or more on the iX. Yes, my X5 could go longer distances but I couldn't. My M850 gets less range than the iX but in either case, I would inevitably need to find a restroom for someone before the car needed a fill-up. These days, that stop is typically at a crappy EA station at a Walmart and I will top off with electricity for 15 minutes while everyone visits the restroom. 15-20 minutes is typically all I need for topping off before reaching a destination longer than the 300+ miles I get in the iX. Then I would plug into a L2 dispenser while the car would be sitting unused anyway. The hypothetical scenario of 500+ mile trips in a single day is not common for most people. The majority of the time the car charges while you're at your destination (home, work, hotel, VRBO, family, vacation house, etc.)

Going from an ICE car to a BEV is different in perhaps surprising ways. Range isn't the end all. When I had an M Roadster that thing would need fuel every 200-225 miles because of a small tank and my aggressive driving but it was a different kind of car intended for a different use case. With an EV I care more about the (real world) charge curve and daily driving dynamics. The iX is good or okay - it could be better (I have a long line of BMW's I hold my bar against). I don't care if the peak charge that it can accept is 195kW (okay I care a little) but I certainly do care about where in the curve it drops below about 125kW which is when I normally get impatient and move on. In comparison, the Lyriq is comparable to the iX on paper but it has a pretty poor charge curve as it comes off peak and drops below 100kW around 40% SoC. This is an example of the learning curve and differences that people need to consider in an EV. Yes an X5 would fill up faster, no one would argue that. But you also pay a price for that privilege and if you're like me and my family, you're still making stops along the way. My iX's 300+ mile range costs me $11 for a full tank at home, and my M850i is closer to $100 at the gas station which I would need to visit weekly if I used it as much as my iX.
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