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Originally Posted by ggalanis
The fact that I never owned a Tesla does not make my comments any less true or relevant... I am "parroting a narrative" because you think that problem was solved many years ago when even darylp310 pointed out that at best they drastically lowered the power consumption when off in the last year or so only.
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I guess you overlooked another post above by someone who owned one said "Correct. Their charging algorithm in the early days was very poor. They improved it over time, due to the expense of replacing them under warranty."
The point is that there are multiple experiences and they do not align with your negative narrative.
I do not discard what you say because you have not owned a Tesla. I discard it when it just doesn't make sense. Knowing that you do not have first-hand experience and have an anti-Tesla worldview helps explain those posts.
Your whole "obvious to you" explanation assumes that the HV contactors switch on and off while in Sentry mode. Or switch on and off while phantom drain is occurring. Or that all cars experience phantom drain. Those presumptions may not be true or are not true.
I do not blindly accept Hyundai, Kia, or Genesis criticism, as you suggest. Many of those criticisms posted here are easily proven true and I agreed with them. For example, GV70 and GV60 range. But when someone said they are chintzy, I challenge that, because it is not true. When someone was critical of Porsche's lack of OPD, I agreed. That seems silly. If you told me you thought the interior of a Tesla was basic, I would agree. They are basic and one of the many reasons I prefer an iX. In the thread that branched to Tesla suspension handling, steering, and braking, you did stay away from unfounded criticism, but at the same time, you could not help a dig and then throwing in some conspiracy theory shade "but I mean given their tendency to blatantly lie about stuff, you never know." That one was just bizarre.
Your last paragraph is surprising to me, and suggests that you have not had a BMW before, though I think that you have. My BMWs and my friends' BMWs were horrible on 12 V batteries. I don't have any science on it, but I spent a lot of money on batteries in the past as did friends and family. That is why I do not share your optimism that "the lead acid battery on this car should last longer than on pretty much any other vehicle I've ever had." I hope it does, but I am not willing to assume it.
If you search the popular Tesla forums on 12 V battery life, and click into a few of the links, you will generally see a bimodal distribution of battery life comments. Those who seem to get a couple of years and those who get lots of years.
Oh, and calling the change to lithium ion batteries a "band-aid solution" displays a lack of understanding of the problems and battery types and why lead acid was such a poor choice in the first place. It was not a band-aid, it was a massive upgrade. Of all the things Tesla did differently in the early years, why nobody thought to lead with a lion battery in the first place is a bit of a head-scratcher.