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      04-01-2020, 07:43 PM   #800
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They are very similar. The overall numbers verify that fact. Furthermore, how can you disagree about the virility/mortality when the flu is confirmed to cause nearly a million hospitalizations a year and kill upwards of 60,000 people a year in the U.S. alone. That's a CDC fact, and is a low estimate on top of that. The same people that generally die from the flu are the same people who are dying from COVID. That is another fact. How are they so dissimilar?

There have been approximately 3,600 COVID deaths in the U.S. and U.S. territories (...Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.) since the onset. The common flu kills far more than that in the same timeframe. I'm not saying it is apples to apples because the COVID strain is slightly different (...more like naval oranges to cuties), but overall it is the flu.
I believe your numbers to be off. Flu hospitalization is in the half million range, but far more importantly is the hospitalization rate along with the duration. Further compounded by no one having immunity except for those who had it. Below is a good article with numbers from reliable sources such as the CDC, WHO, NIH, and other credible medical establishments. Fact of the matter is we don't yet know what the global impact will be until this is over, but indicators are strong that this is more than slightly different.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...-and-different
I pulled those numbers directly from the CDC website (...even though I already knew the range anyway), so if my numbers are off then the CDC's numbers are off.
Fair enough. Top chart shows a significant range due to the aggregated data from a decade, but the 2019 data shows about a half million hospitalized with about 34k deaths. However, 2018's data is significantly worse, in tune with the numbers you presented. Like stated earlier, once the dust settles we'll have a stronger data set around covid19 to make more accurate comparisons.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
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