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      10-16-2013, 06:08 PM   #50
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You can't just dismiss everything as untrue without saying why. Check the references. If you're bringing up the cross-pollination issue it demonstrates you didn't even watch the videos as it was addressed in great detail (short version: this has only happened one time [farmer- not farmers] and there was ample evidence the guy was using the seeds illegally.) This guy got his ass handed to him in court so now he just tries to get back by appearing in propaganda pieces that only tell his lies. They spend a lot to develop their seeds to make a profit. If you don't want to use their seeds, don't buy them or steal them.

Organic farming IS less productive. Starvation was far more common back when everything was organic. Do you think farmers use modern methods for the recreational aspects? If they could get the same yields reliably for the same amount of work, and charge organic prices, THEY WOULD. Like you said- it's all about profit, and this would increase profit. If organic is healthier and just as cost effective, then the market will do its job.

BTW- it's funny nobody ever brings up the health risks of organic farming. The natural fertilizers (manure) and reluctance to use cleaners and preservatives dramatically increase your risk of getting ecoli and salmonela. Organic is about 1% of the food supply but responsible for 8% of ecoli cases according to the CDC, so you're 800% more likely to get ecoli from organic. Consumer Reports measured high levels of salmonela on organic chicken. In Napa, non-organic vineyards have to use excess fungicide because they can't wipe out a particular fungus due to it being harbored in the organic vineyards.
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