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      09-01-2008, 10:26 AM   #101
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Originally Posted by xxForgedxx View Post
He is 5'9 180lbs. He doesn't want mass. There is 1500 calories ALONE at dinner time, Plus 3 protein shakes or bars, plus the other two meals. Rework the math. He said he has HANDLES, he doesn't need a ton of food. He needs to LEAN up while buidling muscle.
Assuming he eats 12oz of chicken, 2cups of cooked brown rice, AND 1 cup of veggies, you're still only sitting around about 800 calories...and that's a shit ton of food for just one sitting. How many calories do you think these protein shakes of yours have lol? He just lost a significant amount of weight so of COURSE he's going to have handles. The excess skin doesn't have anything to lay against now that there's a void of fat. He can continue to cut and sure his love handles and stomach will get smaller, but they'll still be there. Instead of wasting his time trying to achieve something that won't be tangible yet, add some lean muscle, then cut...the results will be a lot better.

"Lean up while building muscle". You can do this to some affect just by doing a nice long clean bulk and working off of newb gains, but if one process requires a deficiency and the other requires a surplus...how exactly do you propose one goes about doing both at the same time? Broscience 4TL

OP, goto http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ and start researching.
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