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      02-26-2020, 11:50 AM   #3317
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Originally Posted by F32Fleet View Post
Subsidies, and govt intervention in general, distort prices by making products more expensive than they otherwise would be. In aggregate everyone is less* well off, but the subsidized do benefit immensely.
FYI, "government" = taxpayers and "subsidies" = business deals taxpayers cut with businesses. That's no different than any deal (e.g., are bank loans "savings client subsidies?" no).

And there's a metic fuck-ton of examples of negotiated taxpayer deals working awesome (when people know wtf they're doing): BMW @ Spartanburg, Atlanta movie industry, etc etc which create $trillions of wealth.

There's also a bunch of examples when government dipshits make horseshit deals because they're morons: e.g., WI Gov Scott Walker's $4.1B deal with Foxconn what a moron! Walker got Foxconned!

TLDR: Taxpayer negotiated deal are great, *if* taxpayers elect a competent leader who builds the right team to do the negotiating. (and a candidate with bad/failed deals, history of bankruptcy, etc should be red flags of who not to vote for, for smart taxpayers)

Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post
I thought the next M4 was going to be a flying car powered by bloomin' onions and a teaspoon of mayonnaise. At least that's what I read on the internet @

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