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      03-09-2020, 03:29 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel View Post
What objective reasons do you have why the planetary transmission is "not even close to the DCT"? The shifts are a few milliseconds slower? The ZF 8HP is lighter and has a very aggressive locking torque converter that can bang out shifts. If it comes down to performance figures, I'll bet that the 8HP has zero disadvantages to the DCT.

And isn't that the whole point of the DCT, because you guys keep saying it's faster than manually shifting? If you care about driver engagement over numbers, then you get the manual. If you want an automatic, you get an automatic, DCT or 8HP.
Sure, @ WOT upshifts are ms apart, but overall feel; part throttle, etc, the ZF8 doesn't match up.

Re: my "objective reasons", loads of time driving them, owning, and tuning them. I'd be more than happy to drive you in back to back cars, DCT and ZF8, something tells you'll walk away and say, "You know, you're right."

Look, I am not here as a manual vs auto or DCT guy, I could care less what anyone chooses to drive.
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