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      10-05-2021, 09:40 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by tranquility View Post
Ya, just about the only rival the MX-5 has, and the 2nd gen is supposedly much better since it got drastically alleviated that infamous torque dip. The power-to-wt is virtually a tie; even though the twins are more powerful, they are also heavier.

I don't really need any practicality (save for having a roof so no Atoms, Elevens, Slingshots, etc) and to me the ND2 RF is just more attractive than the twins.
The RF looks cool, no doubt. But I couldn't bring myself to lose even more trunk space and add something like 110 lbs.

And it doesn't look like the ND2 is receiving nearly the aftermarket support as far as drivetrain mods as it used to. Because of all the EPA stuff regarding emissions/tunes. For example, Edlebrock isn't even bothering to develop a S/C kit for the ND2.

Orange Virus Tuning and Good-Win Racing HP increases from tunes haven't been able to be verified by third parties. IE, not seeing close to the power gains they claim.

Even if I don't heavily mod a car, I like to know there is good aftermarket support if I do.

One last one, if you ever decided you want to do HPDE, you basically need an oil cooler, transmission cooler, and diff cooler for the NDs. In the search of lightweight, the fluid capacities are so small they get well in to the danger zone in less than a 20 minute session. Whereas the Twins just need an oil cooler. Which basically any modern car does for track work.
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