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Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP
I forgot about the Z4M. You're right in a lot of what you said.
However using those same cars, that's probably the only time you could cross shop a corvette with something from BMW. A base C7 stingray. Not a C8 stingray but a C7. Because FE vs FE. A C8 is totally different in driving dynamics, feel and power delivery over a C7. And i own a C7Z. I know how much better the C8 platform is. And i only experienced the C8 stingray, as most would since the C8Z didn't hit the streets yet.
The only issue i have with something of a Z4M is that for 65k? You get a 382hp engine. Which i know is potent but with a corvette, you're ALWAYS getting a V8. There is no 4cyl option like a camaro or a mustang. With a corvette, it's V8 in every single variant. From base model to the top of the line ZR1. And it just gets more powerful and crazier as you go up in the corvette variant lineup.
I know corvettes aren't meant for most and this thread isn't to make people want/love a corvette. You either love them or you don't. But people need to understand they're popular and loved by many for a reason. It's essentially a race car for the street. Loads of power, reliability, fun factor and style.
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Well the Z4M was out with the C6 really, not the C7, but they are all the same format, which 2-door 2-seat sports coupe. The mid-engine C8 is still a 2-door sports coupe and the mid-engine Cayman was always matched to the Z4 Coupe in comparison tests, so I'm not sure engine placement is relevant to the comparison of the cars; more at price points perhaps.
I think we are getting into a circle.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."