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Originally Posted by IJM Supra
I wouldn't go out of my way to get proficient at power cleans to justify squating or deadlifting with a belt, I'd view it more that you squat heavy enough to consider using a belt during squats. otherwise I'd agree with that, its a fairly low bar, deadlifts I'd say unless female 1.5x-2x bodyweight. Ontop of that I would say even when you decide to get one and start using it, to only use it on heavier lifts, personally I don't even consider my belt if the weight is under 80-85% of my one rep max, you don't want to get too reliant on a belt and let it become a crutch that replaces core strength, it is there to supplement it.
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Hard agree all around here. I've noticed a reliance on my belt over the last year or two of really heavy training so i'm taking some time off and doing a full training cycle of beltless work. Totally different ballgame for me.
Like, i'm a 500lb squatter all day but my core/bracing starts to fall apart somewhere around the 385-90 mark. Current working 5x5 is ~360 sans belt. There's at least another 40-50lbs I can add to this before getting back into belted work imo.
Some people legitimately don't use belts and move big weights safely - take Damien Pezzuti for example:
https://www.instagram.com/damienpezzuti/?hl=en
Insanely nice movements with ridiculous core strength and bracing. Probably more the exception since I know of so few examples like him, but definitely some training inspiration.