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      10-16-2021, 12:47 AM   #52
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Right now freeway only is what I trust with ADAS. I don't care what Tesla calls it. There is nothing out there that does not require you hands to be on the wheel.

The "trolly problem" is real. Research it.

Waymo and a couple of others have "self driving" taxis and delivery vehicles and they have been granted permits for specific functionality where a driver does not have to have their hands on the wheel. At least in California and Arizona. But a driver still must be in the car to take control. Tesla is behind Waymo.

We can debate ADAS and ASIL (ISO26262) but we must all agree that Tesla is L2 ADAS and so it BMW and Cruise. If we can't agree to that as reality then there is nothing to debate.

Everyone that likes Tesla FSD/Auto Pilot, repeat after me. Tesla is L2 ADAS and nothing more.
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