[3.0L]

Our nice little town has a local regional airport. It was built during WWII and was way out in the country and amongst agricultural land.

Over the years our city and county officials approved multiple housing developments, many of which surround the airport. Also over the years, the airport traffic has increased, including scheduled airlines.

Several times a year, a resident in or near the airport traffic area complains about the noise. Invariably, more residents in the airport traffic area join in the complaining.

Folks, I lived in that area for 20 years. I distinctly remember initialing a paragraph in my home sales contract that I was acknowledging that I was buying a home close to an active airport. I'm sure that everyone else currently living in the airport traffic area did the same. Among those, some buyers also acknowledged they were buying a home in a flood zone.

So what the heck folks, stop complaining. You were warned.

[Lady Jane]

I spent my entire childhood living in MQs on Air Force bases. For me, aircraft noise signified being scrambled for intercept duties and returning home safely after their mission to their families. Afterburners at 2am: music to my ears.

[OkieSnuffBox]

The same type of people who have moved around Laguna Seca and now they have severe noise restrictions.

Those type of people should be forced to take a long walk off a short pier.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The same type of people who have moved around Laguna Seca and now they have severe noise restrictions.

Those type of people should be forced to take a long walk off a short pier.

I used to attend the races at Laguna Seca many years ago. Great fun!

Yes, I think it is shameful when folks move in close, then complain. They knew it was there. Good grief.

As to race noise restrictions, I'm left wondering how that is accomplished. Huge mufflers?

[DocL]

The airport was there before the greedy developers built homes nearby. Too bad if it's noisy. It's just like people buying homes a few blocks away from train tracks. Of course you're going hear and feel the train passing by at 4:00am.

GTFO with the noise complaints.

[ezaircon4jc]

When I was at SLC a new subdivision was being built at the northeast side of the airport, almost within spitting distance (less than 1/2 mile away). Western had their hub there, so it's not like we weren't busy at times. Before the first family moved in, they were suing the airport for noise.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

I used to attend the races at Laguna Seca many years ago. Great fun!

Yes, I think it is shameful when folks move in close, then complain. They knew it was there. Good grief.

As to race noise restrictions, I'm left wondering how that is accomplished. Huge mufflers?

Yep. There are a lot of stock vehicles that won't pass the 95db sound limits. Apparently they do occasionally have "loud days" for HPDE and such.

The pros don't have to deal with the restrictions, it's for SCCA/NASA/HPDE type stuff.

We live just down the road from a regional airport, I dig the sounds of the little Cessna trainers and the private jets taking off.

When the Cessna's are doing the practice touch-and-go's, they typically circle right over our house.

[Llarry]

The same thing happens when folks move to country places. Suddenly, there are smells and noises etc. that are objectionable. Get a grip, people!

As far as aircraft noise near military airfields, I believe that's called "the sound of freedom!"

[BMWGUYinCO]

Oh man, it's the same here. I live close to Rocky Mountain Regional Airport, and people on our Facebook page complain every. single. day. about airport noise, those idiots are insufferable.

They acknowledge they knew about the airport when they moved here, but they say "But it wasn't this busy 20 years ago." I respond with "Well you moved here 20 years ago and therefore you yourself contributed to population growth....and by the way, as a result of said population growth, traffic has increased, retail development has increased, - EVERYTHING has increased so why are you complaining? Do you expect nothing to change?"

Oh, and that airport has a contract with the military to sell fuel for pilots who do training flights over our mountains. Mostly F/A18s, and I run outside to see them every time they fly over; it's the sound of freedom and I love it.
But invariably, a few minutes later someone will post on FB "I work from home and just had my Zoom call ruined by a loud jet noise". Again, insufferable.

[ppointer]

Not only that, but aircraft, especially jets, are quite a bit quieter now than in the past, thanks to high-bypass engines. Going to assume these complainers never heard a Lear 25 at full power - those suckers were loud. I lived one block from KOSU for 22 years, and I politely told the whiners there to STFU.

[Pauldunlop13]

I had the same issue in Mississauga, Ontario

we all had to sign that same document, and we were at least 15min away from the airport

definitely some dumbass people out there


even worse, now that I live in Colorado - one of the best concert venues (maybe in the world) is Red Rocks Amphitheater

people start building houses nearby, because it is such a cool place - now they complain about the noise from the Concerts

and they won - because now Concerts cannot go past 11pm...

emm effers!

[kscarrol]

People in general are stupid. The last empty lot in our neighborhood is across the cul-de-sac from us and the folks who bought years ago are getting ready to finally build but they are balking at putting in the septic system. We are a bit out in the country with no city sewer which he knew when purchasing the lot. Every home in our development is on septic. They seem nice enough but really....

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

Our nice little town has a local regional airport. It was built during WWII and was way out in the country and amongst agricultural land.

Over the years our city and county officials approved multiple housing developments, many of which surround the airport. Also over the years, the airport traffic has increased, including scheduled airlines.

Several times a year, a resident in or near the airport traffic area complains about the noise. Invariably, more residents in the airport traffic area join in the complaining.

Folks, I lived in that area for 20 years. I distinctly remember initialing a paragraph in my home sales contract that I was acknowledging that I was buying a home close to an active airport. I'm sure that everyone else currently living in the airport traffic area did the same. Among those, some buyers also acknowledged they were buying a home in a flood zone.

So what the heck folks, stop complaining. You were warned.

It's been 25 years, but I recall California's standard real estate disclosure statement being 200 items long in 1997, with San Francisco having an additional 50 items it wanted sellers to disclose to buyers. Together, they were remarkably comprehensive in terms of making buyers aware of potential issues they might be taking on if they were to purchase a property.

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The same type of people who have moved around Laguna Seca and now they have severe noise restrictions.

Those type of people should be forced to take a long walk off a short pier.

Same with Lime Rock Park and Mont Tremblant.

[Humdizzle]

i'd guess the people complaining are the ones who go to the major airport for a cheap spirit airlines flight, rather than using the convenience of a regional airport.

i love my regional airport. park right up front. no shuttles. security line takes 5 minutes. it only flies to o'hare and dfw but the layovers aren't too bad. rather do that than have to drive 2 hours to a major airport with long lines.

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

i'd guess the people complaining are the ones who go to the major airport for a cheap spirit airlines flight, rather than using the convenience of a regional airport.

i love my regional airport. park right up front. no shuttles. security line takes 5 minutes. it only flies to o'hare and dfw but the layovers aren't too bad. rather do that than have to drive 2 hours to a major airport with long lines.

JSX for the win!!!

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

i love my regional airport. park right up front. no shuttles. security line takes 5 minutes. it only flies to o'hare and dfw but the layovers aren't too bad. rather do that than have to drive 2 hours to a major airport with long lines.

We had that at LUK until the scheduled airline went out of business last December.

It offered service from Cincinnati to Chicago, Atlanta, Charlotte, and Cleveland. The airport is 15 minutes from our home, the price was fine, and there was no security line. You just needed park your car 15-20 minutes before takeoff and you were good to go. It was like the 1950s.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by ppointer

Not only that, but aircraft, especially jets, are quite a bit quieter now than in the past, thanks to high-bypass engines. Going to assume these complainers never heard a Lear 25 at full power - those suckers were loud. I lived one block from KOSU for 22 years, and I politely told the whiners there to STFU.

I well remember those early straight-pipe Lear Jets. I could hear them departing when they were 10 miles away. Sounded like an F-86 Sabre Jet.

So yes, the modern high-bypass jet engines are way quieter.

[Llarry]

When I was a senior in high school, we lived on the Navy base at Sangley Point in the Philippines. It was the spring of 1965 and the war in Vietnam some 600 miles or so away was heating up. We lived perhaps 200 feet from the taxiway and probably 450 feet from the runway. Every morning at 5 o'clock a massive EC-121 Constellation radar/weather recon airplane would slowly taxi by, the four huge radial engines barely ticking over and the wheel brakes squealing on its way down to the end of the runway. I had to be in school at 6 AM, so that Super Connie was my alarm clock. As it taxied by I stirred to semi-consciousness, then it reached the runway and turned around and ran up the engines about 1500 feet away. I was not yet fully awake. Then it turned on it's landing lights -- two of 'em on the nose gear door at about a zillion candlepower each. The whole bedroom instantly went from early dawn to brilliant noon-plus. That was my alarm clock and as I got out of bed, the plane thundered down the runway, headed out for a 12-hour or more mission in the Gulf of Tonkin.

The tradeoff for the 6 AM start time for school was that school was over at noon. "Tropical hours"

[Llarry]

Not directly related to the noise complaint issue, but the other odd thing that happened due to our very close proximity to the taxiway is that our dog chased an airplane. We took turns supervising his visits to our very large yard and there was a chain link fence preventing the dog from getting onto the taxiway or runway, but there was also a road going onto the taxiway, so there was a gap. One day I had the dog duty and the dog took umbrage at a P-2 Neptune taxiing by and decided to go for it. Unfortunately, he went out the gap in the fence and ended up under the Neptune, braking like crazy. The Neptune had two big radials and two supplemental jet engines. The clearance below the propeller looked to me to be about two feet; I don't remember whether the jets were on yet -- they were on during takeoff in case of engine failure. I expected to see a red blur at any time as the dog was vaporized by a prop or sucked into a jet intake. Somehow he survived and came back all satisfied that he'd chased the bad airplane away.

[M-technik-3]

My jet for 22 years of being crew and 45% hearing loss Even with David Clarks and ear plugs. TF-39 was whiny engine so wished the AirForce had built the B models as what M's are now. Lockheed said they'd do it to but USAF wanted one airframe type rating.

Flew M models for a year, good crew rest stations went away and reliability went up. But our flying hours plummeted with pulling out of Afghanistan so I retired before that mess.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by M-technik-3

My jet for 22 years of being crew and 45% hearing loss Even with David Clarks and ear plugs. TF-39 was whiny engine so wished the AirForce had built the B models as what M's are now. Lockheed said they'd do it to but USAF wanted one airframe type rating.

Flew M models for a year, good crew rest stations went away and reliability went up. But our flying hours plummeted with pulling out of Afghanistan so I retired before that mess.

Looks like the C-5. I didn't fly on them, but got a ride to Vietnam in a C-141A, complete with our 3 trucks and radar system.

I wore David Clamps during my later private pilot years. That, plus my time in Vietnam eventually caught up with me and now I must wear hearing aids. At least they work - I can once again hear crickets.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Llarry

When I was a senior in high school, we lived on the Navy base at Sangley Point in the Philippines. It was the spring of 1965 and the war in Vietnam some 600 miles or so away was heating up. We lived perhaps 200 feet from the taxiway and probably 450 feet from the runway. Every morning at 5 o'clock a massive EC-121 Constellation radar/weather recon airplane would slowly taxi by, the four huge radial engines barely ticking over and the wheel brakes squealing on its way down to the end of the runway. I had to be in school at 6 AM, so that Super Connie was my alarm clock. As it taxied by I stirred to semi-consciousness, then it reached the runway and turned around and ran up the engines about 1500 feet away. I was not yet fully awake. Then it turned on it's landing lights -- two of 'em on the nose gear door at about a zillion candlepower each. The whole bedroom instantly went from early dawn to brilliant noon-plus. That was my alarm clock and as I got out of bed, the plane thundered down the runway, headed out for a 12-hour or more mission in the Gulf of Tonkin.

The tradeoff for the 6 AM start time for school was that school was over at noon. "Tropical hours"

I got a wakeup "call" around 4a during Desert Storm. Apparently we lived under the departure corridor of Norton AFB and a C5 departed every morning @ 0400 or so. The Galaxy was the only aircraft we heard departing.