[Ashpole]

Hi,

Im looking to replace old car with something - criteria has been:
1) Modern large vehicle with
2) Good legroom, especially at the back
3) Economical and Future-proof, possibly with Hybrid or even Full electric.
4) Good reliability
5) Good Resale value


Until recently, the iX 40 M-Sport ticked all the boxes, in fact, my family loved the iX the first time we test drove it, it has everything we want ... HOWEVER... then the doubts started creeping-in just short of purchasing a 2nd hand iX 40 M-Sports with just 1000 miles on the clock:

Doubt 1) Most of my journeys are in city (80%) however once a month i do have long motorway/highway journey, ... so the question is ... can I make it: from Birmingham to London and back (total of approx 220miles) on a single charge... or would i need to find somewhere to top up?

Doubt 2) Why is there quite a few iX up for resale so soon after buying (with between 1000 - 10,000miles on the clock)?? there are even some iXs with just 15,000 miles but already with 2 previous owners!! Is there an issue with range or usability that the buyers did not factor?

Any owner insight would be greatly appreciated!

Ash
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[SteveX3M40i]

Hi
We have an iX40 MSport fully loaded.
The iX40 has a much smaller battery than the iX50 and is also less powerful.
The range & performance of the iX50 would be much better than the iX40 - but they are much more expensive here in Abu Dhabi.
Our iX40 gets 400km range if you stick to 110km/h on the motorway but this drops to only 300km range if you drive at the legal motorway speed limit in this country of 140km/h.
220 miles will be possible - but you would need a lighter right foot than I have!
We love our iX40 - it’s so smooth, fast & comfortable compared to what it replaced - a 2019 X3M40i
Cheers
Steve

[grueber]

No car is future-proof.
I have had my ix50 for 8 months. I have not had any major hardware issues with it but it's too soon to determine reliability. Ask me in 3 years when the BMW warranty is about to expire.
The iX40 smaller battery/range is a big negative to me. EVs lose range in cold weather. 220 miles in cold weather is doubtful. The iX50 could do it.

[Paladin1]

I have an iX50 and an M60, did my research, and am very happy with both performance and range. Range is dependent on temperature, greatly, in addition to driving style. That said...

Doubt #1. Abu Dhabi = hot and dry, GB = cold and damp. I live in the US Midwest, which is both, sometimes daily. Hot and dry = more range - generally. Cold and damp = less range - generally. As noted, given the battery on the iX40, 220 miles is achievable. Sometimes. Maybe usually. But not all the time. Probably. See previous.

The iX - any model - meets most of your 5 points, with the notable exceptions of #3 and #5. #3 - very economical, about 10-20% of the overall cost of driving my ICE-equivalent X5. But as said, no car, anywhere, ever, is future-proof. Particularly a modern electric vehicle. It will always do what you bought it to do, but it won't do what the next model will do in 6 months. Or the one after that. #5 - see previous. No car, except very exotic one-ofs, has "good" resale value. Almost all of them lose 50% just driving off the lot. The iX model line remains to be seen, but I have no expectation that it will differ from the bell curve norm.

Doubt #2. No idea. But maybe see Doubt # 1.

[dazzapb]

Interesting. Will say UK is not necessarily Cold and damp more mild and damp. From May to September it’s definitely not 25-30c is the norm it seems these days in the south anyway

[Bevforme]

Originally Posted by Ashpole

Hi,

Im looking to replace old car with something - criteria has been:
1) Modern large vehicle with
2) Good legroom, especially at the back
3) Economical and Future-proof, possibly with Hybrid or even Full electric.
4) Good reliability
5) Good Resale value


Until recently, the iX 40 M-Sport ticked all the boxes, in fact, my family loved the iX the first time we test drove it, it has everything we want ... HOWEVER... then the doubts started creeping-in just short of purchasing a 2nd hand iX 40 M-Sports with just 1000 miles on the clock:

Doubt 1) Most of my journeys are in city (80%) however once a month i do have long motorway/highway journey, ... so the question is ... can I make it: from Birmingham to London and back (total of approx 220miles) on a single charge... or would i need to find somewhere to top up?

Doubt 2) Why is there quite a few iX up for resale so soon after buying (with between 1000 - 10,000miles on the clock)?? there are even some iXs with just 15,000 miles but already with 2 previous owners!! IS there an issue with range or usability that the buyers did not factor?

Any owner insight would be greatly appreciated!

Ash

Notice this is a duplicate thread, so here are my duplicate comments


IMHO, from experience. Real range, generally at motorway speed with a full car/boot, in winter, 190 miles or so. Not trying to hypermile and drive like granny, just real world driving.

I wouldn’t worry about the odd charge between B’ham & London. If buying a demonstrator from a main dealer they will likely give you the BMW charge card that gives IONITY at circa £0.26/unit for the first year. IONITY Milton Keynes literally just off M1 J14 with 4x charge points. Otherwise, Moto Rugby just off M6 J1 16x charge points. The turn over of EV’s at charge points with 12/16 points etc is high, meaning you don’t have a long wait for a charger.

Lots of iX’s for sale. A good number will be ex demonstrator. Remember the iX was only available since Nov ‘21, so plenty of dealer owned stock being shuffled.

Read through these forums to see about possible reasons they move on with multiple owners. For example. Build date pre March ‘22 cars lose out on some of the promised ‘features’ and can’t be upgraded. Ditto, pre Nov ‘22 cars, ditto again pre March ‘23 cars. It’s a bit of a shit show really. Some people deal with it and are happy with the car as purchased, some want it ‘always fresh’ as BMW arguably promised.

Stretch to an iX50, that opens up far more range for long trips (along with more performance) and air suspension and 4 wheel steering (but the latter two only on earlier cars, pre Nov ‘22).

It can be a bit of a minefield buying used for the above reasons.

You said about good resale. Hmmm… EV’s especially SUV types, have been dropping like stones in the UK (£1500/mth loss?)… Maybe that is just a blip for now and partly resulting in the stupid push from GOVUK to become carbon neutral so quickly. Road Tax for EV’s is coming, so there is an incentive removed!!!

Non BMW EV’s with greater promised range are stealing headlines, but, right now, I couldn’t find anything to compare with the iX as an all round great package.

If new to EV’s grab the free ZapMap app. Pretty upto date on charging point locations. With prices and real user reviews per location. That will be good for you to check out where you might find suitable places to charge depending and where you want to go. Useful for pre-trip planning.

Generally allow 30 mins per charge to get to 80% on longer trips, time it in with a comfort break or bite to eat if you can…

See other threads about charging to 80% rather than 100%. I generally plan to charge to 100% at home ahead of a long trip, then to approx 80% when on the road. That seems to be the sweet spot between covering miles vs waiting to get from 80-100% (charge rate often much slower after 80% is reached).

Hope that helps.

[Bironf]

Originally Posted by Ashpole

Hi,

Im looking to replace old car with something - criteria has been:
1) Modern large vehicle with
2) Good legroom, especially at the back
3) Economical and Future-proof, possibly with Hybrid or even Full electric.
4) Good reliability
5) Good Resale value


Until recently, the iX 40 M-Sport ticked all the boxes, in fact, my family loved the iX the first time we test drove it, it has everything we want ... HOWEVER... then the doubts started creeping-in just short of purchasing a 2nd hand iX 40 M-Sports with just 1000 miles on the clock:

Doubt 1) Most of my journeys are in city (80%) however once a month i do have long motorway/highway journey, ... so the question is ... can I make it: from Birmingham to London and back (total of approx 220miles) on a single charge... or would i need to find somewhere to top up?

Doubt 2) Why is there quite a few iX up for resale so soon after buying (with between 1000 - 10,000miles on the clock)?? there are even some iXs with just 15,000 miles but already with 2 previous owners!! Is there an issue with range or usability that the buyers did not factor?

Any owner insight would be greatly appreciated!

Ash
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With 3 people inside (260kg) I got around 430 km in eco mode and driving at 100 km/h. Way less than the IX 50 but still pretty good

[SGiXers]

Hi there,
The only reason I can think of is range anxiety. This is my 3rd month with my iX 40 and we are loving it. Smooth, fussless, quiet and spacious.
In Singapore I do mostly short trips point to point of usually less than 10miles or 16 kms each way. In our almost 3 months of use, I've done 2600kms approx 1600miles. I do not go beyond 112kmh or 70mph unless I feel the need the need for a speeding ticket. So that my usual upper limit.
On my routine short and slow runs, on my usable 71kwh battery, I can just about get 330km(205 miles). 80% of my trips is on average 60-80kmh(37-50mph). I reckon if I do most longer and faster runs,with a bit of luck I might get 400km(250miles).
If range is a concern, you might have to bear with doing one quick stop enroute to do a fast DC CHARGING with a 20 minutes boost will easily get you home and dry. So my take is RANGE is more of a concern.

[Bevforme]

Just to be clear to the OP, real range in the UK, in winter with a full car… so wet, windy, snowy conditions on a 300 mile one way trip to Cornwall, combined motorway and ‘A’ roads, I regularly saw 190 miles.

Check this out:
https://ev-database.org/uk/car/1472/BMW-iX-xDrive-40

It is fairly accurate I find.

For example my 2019 e-tron 55 in the same conditions above gets the same 190 miles (bigger battery but less efficient).
https://ev-database.org/uk/car/1092/...ron-55-quattro

[NomoTesla]

There was a shit ton of negativity in these forums last year from iX 40 owners in the UK who kept complaining about the low range in cold weather. Seems like many were expecting the iX to deliver the WLTP range in the coldest UK winters and were disappointed.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by SteveX3M40i

Hi
We have an iX40 MSport fully loaded.
The iX40 has a much smaller battery than the iX50 and is also less powerful.
The range & performance of the iX50 would be much better than the iX40 - but they are much more expensive here in Abu Dhabi.
Our iX40 gets 400km range if you stick to 110km/h on the motorway but this drops to only 300km range if you drive at the legal motorway speed limit in this country of 140km/h.
220 miles will be possible - but you would need a lighter right foot than I have!
We love our iX40 - it’s so smooth, fast & comfortable compared to what it replaced - a 2019 X3M40i
Cheers
Steve

Would be interested to hear your experiences moving from the X3 M40i to the iX. I’m having a bit of an internal debate on exactly the same switch - can’t honestly say I’m a huge fan of the looks, and the boot space seems to be a bit of an issue given the size of the iX

Range is also somewhat of a consideration - although about 80% of my journeys are local or a 100-mile round trip to Edinburgh, now that I’ve retired we’re much more likely to spend time in more remote parts of Scotland where access to charging points is much more limited.

Part of me wants to “do the right thing” and ditch the gas-guzzler, part of me loves the noise and performance of the M40i and another part loves new shiny things….

I also have a load of equity in the X3 which I’m loathe to ditch - doubt there’ll be any in an iX in 3-4 years time.

Being on this forum can be injurious to one’s finances

[SGiXers]

For the price we pay over here before we decide to get something, do a lot of research, then rethink.
Once we are "married" to it ie purchased (we dont have leasing), its for better or for worse for long period. Not super long just we cant change rides every couple of years or 5 to 6years. I'm still very glad to have this iX40 where less might be more.

[SteveX3M40i]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

Would be interested to hear your experiences moving from the X3 M40i to the iX. I’m having a bit of an internal debate on exactly the same switch - can’t honestly say I’m a huge fan of the looks, and the boot space seems to be a bit of an issue given the size of the iX

Range is also somewhat of a consideration - although about 80% of my journeys are local or a 100-mile round trip to Edinburgh, now that I’ve retired we’re much more likely to spend time in more remote parts of Scotland where access to charging points is much more limited.

Part of me wants to “do the right thing” and ditch the gas-guzzler, part of me loves the noise and performance of the M40i and another part loves new shiny things….

I also have a load of equity in the X3 which I’m loathe to ditch - doubt there’ll be any in an iX in 3-4 years time.

Being on this forum can be injurious to one’s finances

Hi,
Well we are very happy with our iX40 - and being in metallic white with gold trim, we are also happy how it looks!
We were worried at first about the performance compared with the X3M40i that it replaced.
I have a proper Racelogic GPS based performance meter - so was able to compare the 0-60 between the two cars!
Using launch control the X3 did 0-60 in just 4.56 seconds - but if you did not use launch control it would be slower off the mark.
The advantage of the iX (and our other car, Tesla Model 3) is that you simply push your foot on the accelerator pedal and you are off!
No complicated launch control programs to wrestle with!
The iX is actually quicker than the BMW stated figures - it actually goes from 0-60 in just 5.26 seconds - so plenty fast enough for traffic light Grand Prix!
The biggest positive differences between the iX & the X3 are as follows:-
Running costs - electricity costs are around a fifth of the price of petrol costs that we were spending per month.
Seat comfort - the X3 had ventilated seats and we always found these very flat, hard & uncomfortable. The iX seats are also ventilated but they are much more comfortable.
Sound system - the X3 had Harmon Kardon sound system which was very good. The Bowers & Wilkins system on the iX is simply amazing - a whole different level!
Technology - the ID8 system is more advanced than the ID6 we had on our X3
Remote start (for the AC system) - living in a hot country, the ability to remotely start the AC system 10 minutes before you get in the car is amazing! I guess the same would be the same for remote heating of the car in Scotland winters!
Rear seat room and comfort - bigger and better than a Range Rover!
The disadvantages of the iX over the X3 are as follows:-
Tyres - the iX comes with EV specific Pirelli 22” tyres. These are expensive and are not runflats. In the UAE, cars all come with spare wheels. On our iX it does not fit under the boot floor - so it nearly fills the already small boot space! We are storing this wheel indoors and have a tyre inflation kit in the car. When the original tyres wear out - we will probably replace them with runflats.
Range - we cannot comment on cold weather range - but the maximum we can achieve by driving on motorways at around 110km/h is 400km.
At normal legal motorway speeds and mixed driving we get around 300km from a full 100% charge. On a daily basis - we only charge to 90%.
Cheers
Steve