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Was there any info shared today regarding ADAS capabilities and what level of autonomy this car could achieve? What type of sensors (radar/camera/Lidar) it has?
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The car for people with the same level of enthusiasm for automobiles as they have with toasters
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Love the exhaust cutout-type design without exhaust tips. A byproduct of evolving design language I suppose, but still
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You put 50-60+ thousand kms on your car a year? Crazy.
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So the non-boost M50 power output is 470hp as predicted.
Cd = 0.25 and big ass tires are the major reasons why M50's range will never get close to Model 3's with the same battery size. Though people looking for bling and badges will happily trade the functionality. |
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The suspension even includes self-regulating air-suspension in the back axel, adaptive suspension, you get adaptive laser lights, a glass roof that you can actually open, etc. I'm not a Tesla hater, but I truly believe BMW's are in a different league, even with their lesser range, which, honestly, will be unnoticeable if you can take advantage of the 200kW charging capabilities of the car.
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The sunroof looks like a traditional sunroof, you know, one that opens up. Something that other EVs never do. That's awesome.
Personally an EV doesn't fit what I'm looking for in a car, but I feel they are going to sell a lot of these. A lot of households buying 3/4-series already have a second vehicle for longer trips. An EV daily makes a lot of sense.
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Just can't get past the fact why BMW would get rid of the holfmeister kink... and the front grill still looks really ugly... coming from the guy that's okay with the m3/4 grill
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Ride comfort: rear air suspension doesn't really do anything here and is probably there to compensate for weight issues. The real difference is adaptive suspension but I can guarantee you most people will be buying eDrive40s with standard suspension. Overall quality I put under "bling": Tesla's build quality is no longer problematic, and the actual remaining difference is material quality and design. An openable roof is not something a lot of people would miss. I actually found that with the completely unnoticeable AC system in my Model 3 I open any windows much less frequently than I did in my BMWs. Tesla's headlights are extremely good with no special trickery. They are at least on par with BMW's adaptive LED, and the laser headlights again will not be standard equipment. One real advantage that you didn't mention is the hatchback. Model 3's trunk opening is laughably small. Summing up, an M50 optioned up to $70K will be better than a $57K Model 3 Perf though the latter will still handily beat the BMW off the line. A base eDrive40 at $55K will be on par with a $49K dual-motor Model 3, with that $6K difference paying for the nicer interior. |
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