[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

BMW's radar sensor excuse is BS. They could easily house the radar sensor in the lower intake like they do on every other vehicle they have on sale and make the grills shorter in height and more proportionate. Even if they needed to add larger sensors, they would still not come close to the size of these grills. Even here on the i4, the radar is part of the lower intake, it just so happens the grills are stretched vertically into the intake as well. I don't see why they couldn't put it in the upper gloss black section of the grill to hide it.

They have more than just that sensor hidden in the grill area

Agreed ‼️

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by jkap27

The ACC sensor isnt anywhere near as visible as it seems like it is from these pics assuming the grille matches the M3/M4. That lower part just above the bottom lip is curving inwards back towards the body of the car which you cant really tell from pics. that was the big thing for me at first when i only had the leaked images of the G8X to go on...it wasnt really the size of the grille... the issue was that it just looked so flat and like it was pasted on the front of this curvy car and it had this vibe like it got its nose cut off (like the base 4 series). But theres really a nice subtle curve to it which makes it work. The redesigned hood has those raised bits which follow a downward curve all the way through the grille and into the bottom lip. The design really makes a lot of sense but i could totally see it being controversial

This is a carbon copy of the standard 4 series grill, the M3/M4 actually has an entire different shape for their grills.

The cut out around the sensor is what makes it noticeable. In addition to the bottom looking as though it is actually open grills (maybe cooling the brakes???) with a shiny small plastic piece on one grill. Those cerium bits only intensify it as well. I can see what they were attempting but the cohesiveness is not there at all.

[USA-RET]

Originally Posted by soheil

Oh yeah, I had not noticed it so far but now can't unsee it! Oh god

Overall, the car look fine. It was a shame they changed the grille and hood design from the concept car.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by USA-RET

Overall, the car look fine. It was a shame they changed the grille and hood design from the concept car.

Both the 4er concept and the i4 concept (i.e. were the designers could actually do whatever they wanted) did not have the hood line, I'm not sure the designers explicitly talked about it but I guess we can assume it had to be changed for safety/regulatory reasons, and not because the designers thought the final car looks better that way.

[sahajesh]

Not looked at all pages but have any of our American posters bemoaned the death of steering feel,
6MT and all the other things that seem to only hold their interest?

[Sublime00]

Gorgeous.

[iPhil]

I’ve changed it to normal wheels and ride height, removed the blue accents.

[Dimitri]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Pretty lackluster reveal. No interior pictures, no specs or models given other than a goal range, no price, just a few exterior photos that pretty much look like 95% of the concept. BMW could have done a better job hyping this car up.

What's to hype? The reveal perfectly suits the car, they were embarrassed to show it

[Doctor///M]

Bewilders me that if they want to capture market share in the EV space, they decided to go with their most controversial front end design. A timeless design this is not, which was the hallmark of their most revered cars.

Best of luck to BMW, but this won't be the car I purchase to make the switch.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Pretty lackluster reveal. No interior pictures, no specs or models given other than a goal range, no price, just a few exterior photos that pretty much look like 95% of the concept. BMW could have done a better job hyping this car up.

This reveal was geared at investors/bystanders to show off something they'll release in the near future for their annual conference today.

The details will come in the following weeks/months.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Inductive

I've never been a fan of Audis, but the pictures speak for themselves. It's time for BMW to queue up the media excuses and damage control.

For what? :

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by Inductive

I've never been a fan of Audis, but the pictures speak for themselves. It's time for BMW to queue up the media excuses and damage control.

Don't forget that the E-Tron GT was co-developed with Porsche's Taycan which made it possible to look like that.

BMW doesn't have that, and on general principles, I think taking the G26 4GC to be their first sedan-like BEV made/makes a lot of sense.

Now whether you like the 4er or not is another matter, I agree...

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by Inductive

I've never been a fan of Audis, but the pictures speak for themselves. It's time for BMW to queue up the media excuses and damage control.

"Beauty is only skin-deep."

[cc3]

Is the battery material still mined by child labour! Then you have to pay big money to drive around in something this ugly. Genius

[MoeMuc]

Originally Posted by Inductive

I've never been a fan of Audis, but the pictures speak for themselves. It's time for BMW to queue up the media excuses and damage control.

You know that this Audi thing is at about 100k and the BMW more like 50ish?

By the way the Frontend of this Max Specd Audi is nice, but that rearend is ugly as hell.
You might have an other opinion, guess that's what people call taste :

[RedKloud]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

We don't know the pricing of the i4 yet, although the E-Tron will likely be more expensive. That said, the iX is advertised as mid-80's so this thing could match that or be close, and the E-Tron will likely get more lower end trims added eventually to bring its base price down.

The i4 M50 will likely be upwards of 80K.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Inductive

I've never been a fan of Audis, but the pictures speak for themselves. It's time for BMW to queue up the media excuses and damage control.

Agreed. Thanks for putting this contrast in stark relief. This image really shows why BMW is in serious trouble. The BMW looks like a minivan in comparison to the sexiness of the Audi.

[USA-RET]

FWIW, I ran across this where there is a bit of a reveal on the interior. @1:56 and going forward you can see the dash layout and the center console an part of the front seat.

It looks okay to my eye.

Wonder how the Germans calculate 85%? They sold the idea that the production car would be 85% of what we saw in the concept. Just a quick look and I see the hood, grille, roof and front fascia are different. During one of the drive videos the front and rear seating interior as well as the door panels appear to be changed also.

Not saying the i4 is a bad car, but looking at the concept and being told we will get 85% of what we see.......and then seeing what we get.....sure looks like more than a 15% change to me.

[iPhil]

Originally Posted by USA-RET

FWIW, I ran across this where there is a bit of a reveal on the interior. @1:56 and going forward you can see the dash layout and the center console an part of the front seat.

That's the iX.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by advantage20

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[ghaffari46]

Was it all "wet" surface drifting?
You can drift any rear wheel drive with 80 hp on a wet surface!
That doesn't count.

[MoeMuc]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

Agreed. Thanks for putting this contrast in stark relief. This image really shows why BMW is in serious trouble. The BMW looks like a minivan in comparison to the sexiness of the Audi.

I don't think so. I live in munich and have seen the i4 and the 4 GC driving around several times. It looks like what I would expect from a 4series GC. If BMW wasn't in trouble with the F36, I see no reason why it should be with this one. It looks really great with an M-Trim in a decent colour, without that rubbish blue accents - but this is all about taste.

What I tried to say before, is that you are comparing two products from different segments - they are just not competing. The e-tron GT would be more in a 8 series GC range, in terms of its dimensions and price tag.
The lowest end trim of the e-tron currently costs more then 100k€ and it is nearly 5 meters long. I don't think that it costs much less in the US. The RS even costs about 150k€.
In Addition to that it has only 238m of max. range, which I think is not too much for a car that should rather have better long journey abilities.
If BMW follows the ix3 pricing strategy, than you can expect the price to be on level with its nearly fully specd ICE equivalent, as the BEV probably won't have many options left to chose.
This would also match with the statement of the project leader in the video, that they want it to be available for a wider mass.

I guess we will know more in the future, but I just tried to provide a more objective view on the product.