12-15-2024, 11:19 PM | #1 |
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New tires needed
Just picked up my previously owned BMW i4 on Saturday and it’s amazing. But the bad news is it only has 20,000kms and 3mm left of rear tires
I need to get something to replace them and I’m looking for feedback. - Do I need EV tires? - Runglats? I’ve taken a quick look and some top choices in 245/45R18 are Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 and the Pirelli PZero All Season Plus 3. Would either of these work for spring thru fall use in Canada where temps are often fluctuating rapidly and there is a chance of a June or September snowfall. Any advice as I’m hoping to find something that suits the car and the dealer was asking $400/tire!! |
12-15-2024, 11:52 PM | #2 |
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You do not need EV tires, though you'll probably get better range with ones designed for EVs.
Get runflats if you want runflats, but they'll probably stiffen the ride. I have the Pilot Sport AS4 on 20" wheels. They're great. I haven't driven them in subzero temps yet. I'm sure they'll be as good (or as bad) as any all season in the snow, but if all season performance is good enough for you, they'll do the job. In serious snow, you'll want snow tires or chains. |
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12-16-2024, 10:17 AM | #3 |
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Thank you, I will not be using them in deep snow, more for spring, summer and fall driving. We commonly get snowfalls in May or in September....have had a rare June and July snowfall as well due to being within an hours drive to the mountains.
I appreciate the feedback as the Michelin PS4S are well reviewed, so I would assume the All Season variant would be equally as good. Additionally, Pirelli seem to have some good options, but there are too many choices with their lineup, especially with PZero's Range loss isn't that important to me as I rarely take the car on long journeys without having access to a charge. So it is more a matter of getting something good that will not wear out in 20,000kms like the OEM tires. |
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12-16-2024, 11:44 AM | #4 |
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I've not had the PS4S yet, but I have had previous PSS and other Michelin summer tires. Their all season tires definitely give something up in the dry, but then they gain a lot of all season benefit, especially in the cold.
The Pirellis can be great in the summer, sticking like glue, but they have never worn well for me. Once they get hot, they physically fall apart. The guys at the bmw performance center hate them. The stock summer tires on my i4 wore out in less than 8k miles, and while I drove fast, I did not drive THAT fast. I'm hoping to get at least 20k from these Michelin all seasons. Mine are staggered and can't be rotated, so they only have a 20k warranty anyway. |
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12-16-2024, 11:53 AM | #5 |
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Thank you. It seems the more budget option of the Pirelli’s is not recommended as there seems to be plenty of love for Michelin (myself included).
That may need to be the direction I go. |
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12-16-2024, 12:05 PM | #6 |
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Michelin are my favorite.
Continental are my second choice. Bridgestone for their offroad tires and sort of acceptable for their road tires. I avoid Pirelli, Yokohama, and Goodyear, as I've had mediocre experiences. I haven't tried the rest for any length of time. I don't need proper snow tires ever, but I've heard that Nokian does the best. |
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12-17-2024, 02:31 PM | #8 |
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Michys first, contis second, Bridgestone blizzaks for winter. Lately I’ve been swapping out summers for MP4 A/S. I’m not a track monster so they suffice for all year round performance. Live in Michigan.
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12-19-2024, 10:29 AM | #9 |
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If you search "tires" in the forum you would likely get a lot of results from those of us who have already done all this homework. Short story though: conti all seasons are the best all round for wear and range. Mich AS 4 have the most negative effects on range, pirelli performs somewhere in the middle. Bridgestone turanza has worst traction / handling / wear but highest efficiency..... Runflats are heavy and harsh with negative impact on range and handling so aren't normally recommend
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12-20-2024, 06:51 AM | #10 |
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I second JPUFF--------
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12-20-2024, 07:31 AM | #11 |
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I recently put the Michelin PS4 AS’s on my car. I love them. They also have a deeper tread pattern which will take longer to burn through. FYI, be careful with measuring rear tires. I measured at 3 also, but take in account the rear camber. The tires on both sides were worn on inner edges to the cords. You have to look under car. I’m lucky I didn’t have a blowout.
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<8k miles. Then after I had the tires put on, I had a new alignment with less rear toe and less rear camber. |
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