04-28-2013, 06:12 AM | #23 | |
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04-28-2013, 06:35 AM | #24 |
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Your idea of sustainable living and mine are exactly the same, except for the length of the carbon cycle.
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04-28-2013, 06:46 AM | #25 |
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If you actually look at the solarwatt website, some of their systems offer a charge storage solution. I don't know what they are planning on pairing with the car, but it would be a system that could charge during the day, and be able to recharge the car at night. I think most people know you cannot completely charge off solar cells, but depending on location and number of solar cells, you could get close to 80% charge from the sun. Would you complain if the government subsidized the same percentage of your gas costs?
Ideally, I would take one of the solarwatt systems with a Model S any day of the week. I just don't happen to make enough money to purchase a $100k car. If you have been to Germany, you know that most households do haven solar panel system on their houses. If anything, it does cut down on our bill, and the German government did subsidize part of their costs. It is the short sighted, selfish train of thought that prevents many Americans from jumping onboard. Just don't think the cross section of America necessarily applies to the global market. Last edited by bavarian19; 04-28-2013 at 07:28 AM.. |
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04-28-2013, 08:32 AM | #27 |
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04-28-2013, 08:35 AM | #28 | |
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I am not quite sure where I stand on the overall alternative energy solutions spectrum yet. However, yours is the only post here that could withstand any amount of scrutiny. A good example of making a well defined argument with substantive evidence to support your claims. Almost everyone else pontificating on this subject here sound like your average politician (left, right, center they are pretty much all the same)
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04-28-2013, 10:36 AM | #29 |
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I wonder what the payback period is for one of these $20k solar electric systems. Probably never, and that includes whatever you get from selling power back to the utilities.
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04-28-2013, 11:54 AM | #30 |
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The tesla s performs quite well but i wonder how long the battery would last when driving hard the whole time eg. I can get 320 miles on one tank in the m3 but usually i get in the 190-220 range per tank.
I was at an autox once and a dude was there with the lotus looking tesla. I was thinking he left after the first run?! No he had to go charge his car and he came back. Then had to charge and come back. And again. Thats just horrible. At an hpde what would you do? Performance is not performance if it only lasts 20 minutes. Solar based operation is meant for calculators lol. |
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04-28-2013, 06:07 PM | #31 | |
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04-29-2013, 12:40 AM | #32 |
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Surely you feed the power you generate into the grid during the day and the credit you get for that offsets the electricity you draw back from the grid when you charge the car. Why use battery banks at all?
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04-29-2013, 09:07 AM | #33 |
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I think that bmw has proved with the I-series that environmentally friendly cars can look good. I really do like the I-series and its purpose. Well done bmw.
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Solar panels on the roof of the garage are a good start - they can charge the vehicle when its there and feed power back into the property when its not - at the end of the day it may not save a fortune but it will make the car and users more energy "neutral"!
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Solar has never been so affordable and efficient as it is today. It has nothing to do with being rich or a political statement. You can have a huge system or small and right now with tax incentives you can get about 50% of the cost back. As far as payback goes my system will be paid back in 8 years if the electric costs don't increase. If they do it will be sooner. We have not paid an electric bill since we went live in March and we are producing excess at about 2X our usage. |
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