[rx867]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

I like the front end. clean no mess.

I think that’s a concept but I agree if it looks even half as good as that image then it’s going to be great

[eanto]

Originally Posted by rx867

That’s kinda like what Apple does but Android fans are so quick to say “erm we’ve had that feature for years 🤓👆🏻” yeah but Apple want to make it perfect and their way I view BMW the same way, they’re quality over quantity (most of the time) which is why I drive a BMW and own an iPhone 😂

relatable 😂

[Chapter2099]

Originally Posted by Swiift

Sad my great grandkids will never know what a true M sounded like…

This. The end of an era, but I have to remember to embrace the change. 😭

[eanto]

the way i see it, EV is like a cheat code, reaching numbers that would be hard to reach in a gas powered car. imo it’s still cheating(not tryna call EV owners cheaters here, sorry &#128514 and cheating is still unfun for the people who still appreciate the fun of gas cars. (although, in EV there is no more $5/gallon &#128514

i’m still team GAS ALL THE WAY

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by eanto

the exhaust is gonna be made from Bose

can’t wait to see mods

[murderspice]

If it doesn’t have ///M mirrors or an S designated engine, then it’s not a real ///M car.

[eanto]

Originally Posted by murderspice

if it doesn’t have ///m mirrors or an s designated engine, then it’s not a real ///m car.

amen people listen to this guy ^^^^
he woke up and started spitting facts

[Nachbar]

Originally Posted by murderspice

If it doesn’t have ///M mirrors or an S designated engine, then it’s not a real ///M car.

I agree and disagree 🤪

[eanto]

Originally Posted by Nachbar

I agree and disagree 🤪

well you’ll be happy to know i respect i8s

[Eric500]

interesting they want to spend R&D money on this. sedans and even performance sedans are a dying market, especially for EVs

Audi E-Tron GT, Taycan are not selling well and depreciate so fast.

Lucid barely sells any, EQE/EQS have effectively been canceled from a future gen in current form, Model S barely has any sales either

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by murderspice

If it doesn’t have ///M mirrors or an S designated engine, then it’s not a real ///M car.

Think you need to replace your "or" with an "and"... they've already been giving ///M mirrors to ///M-light cars... though I suppose they also put the S58s in aplinas (we could probably excuse that), and had the N55 in the OG ///M2 along with the N54 in the 1///M (another separate debate for it being an ///M car of course).

Just like that... my comment has almost as many ///Ms as any random 4 cylinder in the lineup with an M-sport package... where do I get my quad tail pipes now?

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by Swiift

Sad my great grandkids will never know what a true M sounded like…

They will.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Eric500

interesting they want to spend R&D money on this. sedans and even performance sedans are a dying market, especially for EVs

Audi E-Tron GT, Taycan are not selling well and depreciate so fast.

Lucid barely sells any, EQE/EQS have effectively been canceled from a future gen in current form, Model S barely has any sales either

I doubt it costs much to literally just put a motor on each wheel. I remember seeing that video last year of some car just spinning in circles.

[eanto]

Originally Posted by unfoundnemo

Think you need to replace your "or" with an "and"... they've already been giving ///M mirrors to ///M-light cars... though I suppose they also put the S58s in aplinas (we could probably excuse that), and had the N55 in the OG ///M2 along with the N54 in the 1///M (another separate debate for it being an ///M car of course).

Just like that... my comment has almost as many ///Ms as any random 4 cylinder in the lineup with an M-sport package... where do I get my quad tail pipes now?

you’re hurting my 230i’s feelings 🥺

[03BeastCharmer]

Why can't we just have a 500hp, long range but lighter sedan. No need for 1300 hp. Idiot drivers can't handle 500 with slight turbo lag. I can't imagine the accidents with instant torque and 1,300 Hp and 7000lb vehicles. Sign, I'm the grumpy old man who yearns for the old days.....

[eanto]

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

Why can't we just have a 500hp, long range but lighter sedan. No need for 1300 hp. Idiot drivers can't handle 500 with slight turbo lag. I can't imagine the accidents with instant torque and 1,300 Hp and 7000lb vehicles. Sign, I'm the grumpy old man who yearns for the old days.....

well i’m only 16 yo and i fully agree with you

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by eanto

you’re hurting my 2 series’ feelings ��

Your 2 series will be fine, it's a propper car and happy it's not the ///M235i GC.

[Edwardsc1]

Originally Posted by eljay

This hp race is getting crazy.
Why do we need 1300hp? 0-60 in 0.9secs? Ohhkay.

Build a 400hp lighweight EV that can beat a 1000hp Tesla. Then you'll have the performance engineering crown back.

Yeah you might not realize this, but "lightweight" and "EV" definitely do not go in the same sentence

[M3WC]

So it will beat a Rimac Nevera or just everything with four doors?

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

Why can't we just have a 500hp, long range but lighter sedan. No need for 1300 hp. Idiot drivers can't handle 500 with slight turbo lag. I can't imagine the accidents with instant torque and 1,300 Hp and 7000lb vehicles. Sign, I'm the grumpy old man who yearns for the old days.....

I would like to see a BMW EV sports coupe...3,500lbs max, 400hp, RWD single motor, 300mile range. Not sure if current battery technology can even produce that. Cayman EV is coming, will be interesting to see the specs.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by eljay

This hp race is getting crazy.
Why do we need 1300hp? 0-60 in 0.9secs? Ohhkay.

Build a 400hp lighweight EV that can beat a 1000hp Tesla. Then you'll have the performance engineering crown back.

The market for a super sedan like this is so small. But eventually it will be the M3 replacement.

[mbanck]

Maybe check out the beginning of this video where Biermann (former M Boss) discusses how he put the Hyundai Ioniq 5N into production, and how he embraced BEVs, but with a focus on driver/track-focused development. He is retiring at the end of the year, so he did not have to do this if he wasn't convinced it was the way forward...
I hope Google can auto-translate the german well eenough: