[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by Louis_BE

NomoTesla

The last 2 - 3 minutes of this video explains exactly what is wrong with this current crop of BMW’s …

I fail to see the problem you see. It's an ICE platform-based EV BMW compared to all EV-dedicated platforms.

They call it basically a 'Rolls Royce' and note how massive it it (it is!)

"Least efficient" is not shocking, like a V12 760 vs any other similar ICE (in that group) would be on the trip. If they were ICE, the Tesla and Ioniq6 would be a Camry and an Accord.

These comparisons are kind of annoying in many ways.

[NomoTesla]

Originally Posted by Louis_BE

NomoTesla

The last 2 - 3 minutes of this video explains exactly what is wrong with this current crop of BMW’s …

Thank you! This reminds me why I do not like this person's channel or this person's reviews. He has no idea what's important even to himself. In one i7 video he says it's the best luxury EV. In this video he dings it for being the least efficient car, then heaps gobs of praises on its quietness and luxurious appointments, then ends by saying "I don't even care how efficient it is as long as it charges fast."

Well, Mr. Conner, which is it? He starts his sentences a certain way, then ends up in a completely different place by the end of the same sentence. I love this car. I hate this car. It's the best car! It's the worst car! I suggest the reviewer has some mental issues.

The problem isn't BMW. The problem is idiot morons like Kyle Conner who spew all kinds of useless drivel because they, themselves, don't know what's important to most EV consumers. I don't know anyone who would care about cross-country charging performance or time. Nobody I've ever met does this, except crazy EV people who have chips on their shoulders and act like they have something to prove.

What I got from this video is that there are some crazy people doing crazy things that don't matter to anyone.

[Kennethjk]

NomoTesla and LuisBoston

Your both right and I fell asleep watching that and never finished but I did watch the last few minutes about the i7.

I will say for the price of that i7 it should have first in class everything including charging. You make the perfect car only to skimp out. They should do better, would that stop me from buying the car, probably not but what you put into the i7 eventually trickles down to the less expensive models.

Just my thoughts.

[Pictor]

Mostly agree with everything posted here. No one buys a 7-series for its efficiency. A Citroen 2CV can top the 7-series in that category. But charging speed is certainly something that should be better. Not that the 7 is bad with respect to charging speed but it could be better.

KC has always been fairly biased and it's very evident from the gushing praise of cars including the i7 and iX while also ragging on them. Both aspects of his points (if you have the time to sit through his videos) have their own merit but like anything else, as an individual, we need to make our own assessment based on the provided data.

[NomoTesla]

If one's use case is cross-country road tripping in the most efficient and fastest manner, no, the i7 is not a good choice. For that I'd use a cheap, base model Tesla. This is why the iX is perfect for us. It gives us a spacious and comfortable SUV, good efficiency for the size class, and easily handles 800-900 mile days without any charging issues. Besides, I can't handle more than that without needing an overnight break.

Speaking of overnight breaks, the Fairfield Inn & Suites includes free, 6 kW AC charging with its rooms.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

If one's use case is cross-country road tripping in the most efficient and fastest manner, no, the i7 is not a good choice. For that I'd use a cheap, base model Tesla. This is why the iX is perfect for us. It gives us a spacious and comfortable SUV, good efficiency for the size class, and easily handles 800-900 mile days without any charging issues. Besides, I can't handle more than that without needing an overnight break.

I’d counter that the i7 and iX are nearly identical for a cross country trip. Similar charging curves, similar range. Maybe the 50 gives a few more miles.

But the i7 is extremely comfortable, and its front seats are more comfortable than the iX for me, with much better massage. And with the exec rear seating, I’d rather be in the back of the i7 than the iX.

To me, it’d be a wash. And I’d rather spend 3-5 days in either over any other car.

(FWIW I had an i7 loaner for a week and took it on a 600 mile road trip)

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

Thank you! This reminds me why I do not like this person's channel or this person's reviews. He has no idea what's important even to himself. In one i7 video he says it's the best luxury EV. In this video he dings it for being the least efficient car, then heaps gobs of praises on its quietness and luxurious appointments, then ends by saying "I don't even care how efficient it is as long as it charges fast."

Well, Mr. Conner, which is it? He starts his sentences a certain way, then ends up in a completely different place by the end of the same sentence. I love this car. I hate this car. It's the best car! It's the worst car! I suggest the reviewer has some mental issues.

The problem isn't BMW. The problem is idiot morons like Kyle Conner who spew all kinds of useless drivel because they, themselves, don't know what's important to most EV consumers. I don't know anyone who would care about cross-country charging performance or time. Nobody I've ever met does this, except crazy EV people who have chips on their shoulders and act like they have something to prove.

What I got from this video is that there are some crazy people doing crazy things that don't matter to anyone.

Wow you nailed it Nomo. Kyle Conner is a moron, and he does exactly what you described ALL THE TIME. It’s like he’s bipolar “this car is the greatest car I’ve ever driven” then he begins to bash it. He also will heap praises in his reviews then mention the same car in a podcast interview or something like that and say something completely different. I’m sure a lot of his praise is so his free trips paid for by the automakers keep coming.

[Louis_BE]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

Thank you! This reminds me why I do not like this person's channel or this person's reviews. He has no idea what's important even to himself. In one i7 video he says it's the best luxury EV. In this video he dings it for being the least efficient car, then heaps gobs of praises on its quietness and luxurious appointments, then ends by saying "I don't even care how efficient it is as long as it charges fast."

Well, Mr. Conner, which is it? He starts his sentences a certain way, then ends up in a completely different place by the end of the same sentence. I love this car. I hate this car. It's the best car! It's the worst car! I suggest the reviewer has some mental issues.

The problem isn't BMW. The problem is idiot morons like Kyle Conner who spew all kinds of useless drivel because they, themselves, don't know what's important to most EV consumers. I don't know anyone who would care about cross-country charging performance or time. Nobody I've ever met does this, except crazy EV people who have chips on their shoulders and act like they have something to prove.

What I got from this video is that there are some crazy people doing crazy things that don't matter to anyone.

Well he flip flops if you look at it like that, but for me he shines light on different needs and the pro’s and cons …
That is what he triggers, and so, some people will conclude this is the car I want because comfort and lux are important to me and range / fast charging not so and for others … by playing both sides of the fence he triggers different groups.

His video’s are to long and I do not always agree, but he really goes in depth and makes sure everyone gets their priorities highlighted …