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Better price than I was expecting, tough choice between one of these and an M4 tbh. i4 should come in quite a bit cheaper after all the credits etc, and be a more convenient daily. M4 in 6MT presumably will appeal to the emotions more and be able to be tuned. Choices, choices... Can’t wait to drive them both
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06-01-2021, 08:07 PM | #46 |
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Either this will be a short lived benefit (BMW has used up more than half of its 200K quota) or it could flip to the opposite (at least for the i4) if the current proposal to offer higher credit to US built cars gets passed by the Congress.
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As some of the credit is only for car being assembled in the US which the BMW won't https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...edit-increase/ |
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06-01-2021, 08:27 PM | #50 | |
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I also read that the new proposal is to get rid of 200k cap, so that will benefit both non-US and US manufacturers alike, with base credit of $7500. On top there will be $2500 extra for US built(2nd $2500 extra for US created with union tie does not benefit all US built). Having said that, BMW also can adopt price cuts(to adjust to FMV) that others deploy once fed credits run out, so we will see. |
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06-01-2021, 08:34 PM | #51 | |
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This will be 3 or suv 3s car, more power then m3. Thats a fun battle for enthusiasts
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The estimated cost is almost $32B, which may be used to get the basic R&D done (and production ramped) for carbon/solid-state/Al-ion/which-ever tech that can do 60x faster charge and 3x denser .... just saying. |
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06-01-2021, 08:51 PM | #54 |
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It's easy to see that this was not a "full" attempt at an EV so if you take it for what the i4 is, I'm willing to accept some of its shortfalls. While the range isn't the best, it's also not terrible - you get decent range with a G2X interior with a price tag that doesn't approach six-figures.
It's not quite a Model 3 in terms of range but also not priced like an Audi e-Tron GT but you get all the typical BMW stuff but in EV form. |
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I think there were other threads stating that the LCI 3/4/M3/M4 will get the new iDrive debuted on the i4 and iX. Given the dash on the i4 pretty much look alike with the 3/4 series, might this be a preview of how the dash will look like on the LCIs?
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06-01-2021, 08:59 PM | #56 | |
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But calling it an M (because it had M seats?) and the performance is the same as a base Model 3 is not too inspiring.
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06-01-2021, 09:01 PM | #57 |
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Agreed, $55.4k for the i4 40 before $7.5k fed credit is not bad. And typical BMW stuff is all good with peace of mind.
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06-01-2021, 09:04 PM | #58 |
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240 miles is fine for me. Its the same range as my M2 and I've never used all of the range in one trip.
Grills actually look "ok" on this. Not gorgeous, but ok.
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06-01-2021, 09:08 PM | #59 |
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The order screen says 3.7 0-60mph. And BMW is pretty conservative. Perhaps it is at 50% SOC? My i3s is rated around 6.7 sec, I have achieved 5.9 with 1ft rollout. So while people say the Bolt is quicker than an i3 on paper, in reality it isn't.
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this is perfect for me. 55 mile commute when I move to the club. charge it at the club each day while Im there. Should be ideal I would think for me.
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As mentioned in the iX thread, it seems like i4 also has exactly the same verbiage regarding ADAS capabilities which seems a bit odd for iX considering that it was initially marketed as having more autonomous capabilities
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I like it, performance for the 50 is better than I thought (and I assume BMW sandbag these figure just like they do with the gasoline ones), but range is a bit disappointing, don't really need that much, but I don't live in the burbs, so charging is a trouble and even if I solve that I want "one" car just because it's less hassle when you have to park in a garage somewhere else, so that range isn't really one car for me.
I mean I assume the total package as a whole is good (built quality, finish etc.), but as of today I think Telsa still win overall (performance, range, and the whole charging infrastructure) I mean BMW can charge a premium for being "better elsewhere" but I want performance and range to be the same, then other part better then charge me more for it rather than compromise here and there. |
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also if those are the figures, then might as well move to full electric today or the gasoline M division have to put out 1000hp M5 and 800hp M3? edit: as in if i4M is 85k with better than M5 performance then M3 and M5 will need to way up the game |
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