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Well it seems like it has to compete with a new Ford GT... Seems to have some i8 styling cues the new GT...
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In my opinion, it absolutely destroys the i8 in terms of looks. Actually, it destroys anything BMW makes right now. Go America. Incredible. |
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01-12-2015, 01:36 PM | #47 |
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A lot of Ford GT fans hate the new design and said it should have come with a V8.. IMO i8 still looks better..
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I disagree. I think the GT looks far superior. |
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I suspect the complaining is more of a personal habit than something wrong with the company. If given everything they complained about, they would still find something else to be upset with.
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Would love to see this
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01-12-2015, 04:46 PM | #52 |
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They are not. This is too aftermarket.
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More supercar rumors?
While the i8S is a very realistic thing, i'm not too excited about the drivetrain. There's no doubting the potential performance figures. But a supercar should the embodiment of mechanical, emotional, and theatrical experiences, showcasing the pedigree and the absolute limits of a car manufacturer. Part of me still wished that BMW stuck the S65 & S85 into a mid-engined chassis. BMW missed their chance with that a decade ago. Its all about Efficient Dynamics from here on.
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Like to hear what Scott says. |
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I am pretty sure they are using super capacitors in conjunction with a battery to do it. Somewhere the price for these storage units was quoted at $70,000.
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I think the i8 is a better looking car than the Ford GT. But not by much. It looks really good and I bet it is super fast.
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01-13-2015, 04:26 PM | #60 |
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This image is too aftermarket and too influenced by BMW M. Which BMWi will not crossover with. The only BMWi aspects shared with BMW M will be Carbon Fibre.
Both BMWi and BMW M will offer their own unique vision.
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So it sounds like the carbon structure will underpin something new from i and something new from M... Nice |
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I don't see BMW ever making an "M" version of an "i" car - as BMW said they're incompatible philosophies. In this case, I would also suspect the chassis is incompatible as everything here has been designed around having two smaller engines (forward and aft) - now squeezing one larger conventional combustion engine as mid-engine perhaps?
Fact is, if you take away the "semi good looks" of the i8 (can't claim I totally love it), there isn't a lot to be excited about - and the evidence is the CONSTANT rumor that there will hopefully be a more powerful / conventional combustion version of the car.
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Hate to be so down on BMW here, as I love the brand, and I thought the i8 had great potential - but it's a showy looking Prius unfortunately. A LaFerrari or 918 Spyder, on the other hand, demonstrates the current "state of the art" for hybrid sports cars. The balance is still heavily shifted towards combustion technology with auxiliary power from electric drive. The i8's very small 3-cylinder 228 hp engine just isn't sufficient to "carry the day" once battery power is depleted... as will happen quickly if the car is really being pushed. And even when it's fully functioning, a nearly $140k base price isn't giving you anything remotely competitive performance-wise... you're paying a very hefty premium for a hybrid drive.
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That being said, the i8 was never made to be a fast track car so comparing performance track monsters like the 918 spider, LaFerrari or even the R8 means nothing to me.
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We could get into a long discussion about how complaining about the i8's track performance is like throwing a pretty good (not great) college football player in the NFL and being surprised when he can't make it...but that would be silly. It's not meant for the track, it's meant for the road where you wouldn't be able to deplete the battery without severely breaking some traffic laws and negligently endangering people around you. Hence why not a single owner or publication has complained about lack of charge on the road, it just doesn't happen. CAR even said they charged the batteries back to their capacity in Sport after a couple 7/10ths laps on a track. And as far as BMW goes, I've been "down" on them for nearly a decade. My family was THE prototypical BMW family growing up. My first car was a hand-me-down 6-year old 750iL. I learned to drive stick on a 850Ci. Others cars owned by the family included a 323i, the first X5 4.4i Sport in the state, a 745iL, a E46 M3 I drove for 10 years and 100k miles that was replaced with a loaded 2008 E90 M3 I drove for 6 months until I couldn't stand the lack of low-end torque any longer and traded it for a C63. I still have a E30 M3 and 2003 M5. Why the history? Because the i8 is the first BMW I've truly been interested in since the E39 M5 went out of production. They still make good cars, it just feels like they're going through the motions. For nearly a decade BMW has been saying "I guess we need to make a new 3, 5, 7, etc-Series. What are Audi and Mercedes doing with theirs? Alright, let's just the same thing, but with a white/blue badge." The "big three" of German luxury are mostly playing monkey-see, monkey do. It's the most boring game of catch-up. I'm in "they've lost their way" camp and the i8 seems focused in a way they haven't been in a long time. It's not a lock-step move with their competition like everything else they make is. So while you're down on the i8, I'm down on everything else. The only other BMW on the horizon I plan on darkening the door for is the M2...and it better have some over-the-top fender flares. BMW i brought me back to the fold. The rest of the company still has work to do. Last edited by Carac; 01-14-2015 at 11:07 AM.. |
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So, if they keep the HP/liter (and torque) figure in moving to a 4 cylinder and more powerful electric motors, one can assume an i8S would make 476 HP & 560 ft. lbs.
It might be a little down on power, but I'd really like this to compete with the upcoming NSX. |
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