[snerkler]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

There's also a digital version of the owner's manual in the car, it's an app. The manual is literally everywhere.

Good to know

[1m4tr]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

yes it does have emergency braking when parking at least when reversing.

Why today? Who knows exactly what was different but it does that when inching back as I have triggered it many times backing up towards my own car in my driveway. It it overly cautious in that scenario but at least in my case, it kicks in when I am pretty close... I've never needed to go closer than that.

Yeah when I back out of my narrow garage and driveway I have to go super slow as we have bushes that line the drive to the right and my fiance’s car parked on the left side. If I get too close to the bushes, it’ll abruptly stop and scare the crap out of me. Wish it could recognize this back up procedure and I could tell it not worry about the bushes on the right.

[snerkler]

I'm back with another dumb question. I've just got a home charger and trying it out, it says I will reach 80% charge in 24h31min, however I will be leaving for work at 8.45am, so 16h20min's from now. I've seen in the app that you can stop charging, but I was wondering if you could stop charging without having to use the app?

Reading the manual it just says to unplug the cable. Obviously to do this I need to press the release button, so by doing this does that then stop the charging making it safe to remove the cable?



On a separate note, I wasn't happy that the cap for the plug dangles against the side of the car, but then I saw that it could fit on the back of the charging socket cover, I assume this is what it's intended for and it's not going to do any harm?

[thebishman]

Originally Posted by snerkler

I'm back with another dumb question. I've just got a home charger and trying it out, it says I will reach 80% charge in 24h31min, however I will be leaving for work at 8.45am, so 16h20min's from now. I've seen in the app that you can stop charging, but I was wondering if you could stop charging without having to use the app?

Reading the manual it just says to unplug the cable. Obviously to do this I need to press the release button, so by doing this does that then stop the charging making it safe to remove the cable?

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On a separate note, I wasn't happy that the cap for the plug dangles against the side of the car, but then I saw that it could fit on the back of the charging socket cover, I assume this is what it's intended for and it's not going to do any harm?

Dear God are you starting at 5% SoC and charging at a ridiculously low amperage?

If you’re using a true L2 EVSE and are charging at even 24A for instance, it will not take over 24 hours to charge to 80%; I suspect it’s just the car providing a (very low) timing estimate given it’s the first time you’ve plugged it in.

Regardless, it is totally safe just to unplug the EVSE from your car; there will not be ‘live’ power at the plug once it disconnects from the iX.

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Dear God are you starting at 5% SoC and charging at a ridiculously low amperage?

If you’re using a true L2 EVSE and are charging at even 24A for instance, it will not take over 24 hours to charge to 80%; I suspect it’s just the car providing a (very low) timing estimate given it’s the first time you’ve plugged it in.

Regardless, it is totally safe just to unplug the EVSE from your car; there will not be ‘live’ power at the plug once it disconnects from the iX.

Thanks, since posting this thread I worked out that it's not charging anywhere near what it should be.

I've just had a pod point installed and it's supposed to charge at 7kW. It started at 24% at 3.35pm UK time, and it's now 6.38pm and it's only at 31%, that's 7% in 3 hours. As the M60 has a usable capacity of 105kW, 1% is near enough 1kW so based on this it's only charging at 2.33kW.

I didn't precondition the battery but I wouldn't expect it to make that much difference? Next time I'll precondition the battery (when I read how to do it) and see if it makes a difference.

It's a little worrying as I only got 118kW charging speed from a 240kW public charger last week, and now this is charging much slower than it should. If I can't get to the bottom of why I fear it may be a trip to the dealership.

[ubercruise]

Originally Posted by snerkler

Thanks, since posting this thread I worked out that it's not charging anywhere near what it should be.

I've just had a pod point installed and it's supposed to charge at 7kW. It started at 24% at 3.35pm UK time, and it's now 6.38pm and it's only at 31%, that's 7% in 3 hours. As the M60 has a usable capacity of 105kW, 1% is near enough 1kW so based on this it's only charging at 2.33kW.

I didn't precondition the battery but I wouldn't expect it to make that much difference? Next time I'll precondition the battery (when I read how to do it) and see if it makes a difference.

It's a little worrying as I only got 118kW charging speed from a 240kW public charger last week, and now this is charging much slower than it should. If I can't get to the bottom of why I fear it may be a trip to the dealership.

I don't think preconditioning will make much of a difference for Level 2 charging.

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by ubercruise

I don't think preconditioning will make much of a difference for Level 2 charging.

Thanks. Is it possible to manually precondition the battery from the app? I can't find a setting in the app, and there's nothing in the manual, it just tells you how to manually precondition from the car menu.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by snerkler

Thanks, since posting this thread I worked out that it's not charging anywhere near what it should be.

I've just had a pod point installed and it's supposed to charge at 7kW. It started at 24% at 3.35pm UK time, and it's now 6.38pm and it's only at 31%, that's 7% in 3 hours. As the M60 has a usable capacity of 105kW, 1% is near enough 1kW so based on this it's only charging at 2.33kW.

I didn't precondition the battery but I wouldn't expect it to make that much difference? Next time I'll precondition the battery (when I read how to do it) and see if it makes a difference.

It's a little worrying as I only got 118kW charging speed from a 240kW public charger last week, and now this is charging much slower than it should. If I can't get to the bottom of why I fear it may be a trip to the dealership.

This is strange. It looks like your car is charging at 11 A. So, the car or EVSE may think it is on a 15A circuit.

You have a 40A circuit in your home, right? So that would correspond to a 32A charging current which would equate to 7 kW.

The first thing I would do is check the provisioning of the Pod Point EVSE. When you pull up its configuration or status on the App, can you see its provisioned circuit size?

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by ubercruise

I don't think preconditioning will make much of a difference for Level 2 charging.

it will make zero difference for L2. Don't do that.

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

This is strange. It looks like your car is charging at 11 A. So, the car or EVSE may think it is on a 15A circuit.

You have a 40A circuit in your home, right? So that would correspond to a 32A charging current which would equate to 7 kW.

The first thing I would do is check the provisioning of the Pod Point EVSE. When you pull up its configuration or status on the App, can you see its provisioned circuit size?

I don't actually know what current my house is in all honesty. I can't see any configuration on the app.

Under stats it's saying no charge history. Under event log there's nothing.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by snerkler

I don't actually know what current my house is in all honesty. I can't see any configuration on the app.

Under stats it's saying no charge history. Under event log there's nothing.

First step is to look at the circuit breaker panel for the outlet or circuit that hosts the EVSE. That number will tell you the circuit size. 80% of that is the charge rate you should see.

Then, the next step is to figure out the provisioning process for your EVSE to confirm that it is matched to the circuit.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

it will make zero difference for L2. Don't do that.

In fact, wouldn’t it make it worse by wasting energy to get the battery ready for a DC unnecessarily?

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by snerkler

I'm back with another dumb question. I've just got a home charger and trying it out, it says I will reach 80% charge in 24h31min, however I will be leaving for work at 8.45am, so 16h20min's from now. I've seen in the app that you can stop charging, but I was wondering if you could stop charging without having to use the app?

Reading the manual it just says to unplug the cable. Obviously to do this I need to press the release button, so by doing this does that then stop the charging making it safe to remove the cable?

Attachment 3665560

On a separate note, I wasn't happy that the cap for the plug dangles against the side of the car, but then I saw that it could fit on the back of the charging socket cover, I assume this is what it's intended for and it's not going to do any harm?

did you check if you have a current limit set for AC charging on your car that could explain the slow charging speeds?

You can check in the app under Charge and climate settings->charging settings->current limit for AC charging

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

First step is to look at the circuit breaker panel for the outlet or circuit that hosts the EVSE. That number will tell you the circuit size. 80% of that is the charge rate you should see.

Then, the next step is to figure out the provisioning process for your EVSE to confirm that it is matched to the circuit.

Just tried it again and it's now charging at 7kW, I've not done anything different

Originally Posted by ggalanis

did you check if you have a current limit set for AC charging on your car that could explain the slow charging speeds?

You can check in the app under Charge and climate settings->charging settings->current limit for AC charging

Yeah I checked that, it's set to 32A. It's working as expected now

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by snerkler

Just tried it again and it's now charging at 7kW, I've not done anything different


Yeah I checked that, it's set to 32A. It's working as expected now

If your charger was installed by a pro and set to match the rating of your circuit, (i.e. set to 80% of the max amp rating of the circuit), I would change the settings of the car to unlimited for the times you might plug in somewhere else on a lvl2 that can go faster than 7kW.

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

If your charger was installed by a pro and set to match the rating of your circuit, (i.e. set to 80% of the max amp rating of the circuit), I would change the settings of the car to unlimited for the times you might plug in somewhere else on a lvl2 that can go faster than 7kW.

It's set to unrestricted, I just assumed that the max was 32A as that's what the max is in the greyed out bar below.

[snerkler]

So the charge worked overnight and was finished by 5.10am so an hour earlier than anticipated.

It's charged to 80% but only showing 181 miles range. I assume this is adaptive as I've only been getting an average of 1.5 miles/kW since it was last charged and it will show a longer range when I start doing some longer runs? (been doing a lot of short runs and heating the car every morning)

[javapro]

Originally Posted by snerkler

Thanks, since posting this thread I worked out that it's not charging anywhere near what it should be.

I've just had a pod point installed and it's supposed to charge at 7kW. It started at 24% at 3.35pm UK time, and it's now 6.38pm and it's only at 31%, that's 7% in 3 hours. As the M60 has a usable capacity of 105kW, 1% is near enough 1kW so based on this it's only charging at 2.33kW.

I didn't precondition the battery but I wouldn't expect it to make that much difference? Next time I'll precondition the battery (when I read how to do it) and see if it makes a difference.

It's a little worrying as I only got 118kW charging speed from a 240kW public charger last week, and now this is charging much slower than it should. If I can't get to the bottom of why I fear it may be a trip to the dealership.

The car shows you the charging rate in kWs when plugged in, so there is no need to go through manual calculations/estimates!

[snerkler]

Originally Posted by javapro

The car shows you the charging rate in kWs when plugged in, so there is no need to go through manual calculations/estimates!

I know, but I was sat watching the footy

I was surprised the app doesn't show it you as well.

[NomoTesla]

Math is pretty easy for me if I use 100 kWh as my pack capacity. How long will it take to charge my car from 20% to 80% at 7 kW? 80-20 represents 60% of 100 kWh, or 60 kWh. Divide 60 kWh by 7 kW and you get 8 ½ hours. This comes in handy when I'm departing on a long road trip the next day and want to leave as close as possible to when the car finishes charging to 100%.

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by snerkler

So the charge worked overnight and was finished by 5.10am so an hour earlier than anticipated.

The app always overestimates how long the charge will take. Those German engineers likely built in a buffer to compensate for voltage dropping or just to ensure it never finishes late vs the estimate as this seems to have been very important for them.

[NomoTesla]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

The app always overestimates how long the charge will take. Those German engineers likely built in a buffer to compensate for voltage dropping or just to ensure it never finishes late vs the estimate as this seems to have been very important for them.

Being on time is a very European (and Japanese) concern.