[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by kbsilver

I am also replacing a perfectly good 3 series, but will be close to 12 years old and 130K miles when I do.

12 years and 130k miles on a BMW diesel is a pretty good run, u deserve to get a new ride.

Have u considered G20 330i or 330e, and if so, what are your thoughts on those vs. i4?

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

CPOs were always on my shopping list given the cost advantages, but I did pick brand new on last 3 bimmers as my spreadsheets() say owning 3-yr old CPO to 10-yr mark, vs. buying new and holding to 10-yr mark, saves a few $k per new car(i.e. not big savings).

Owning 3-yr old CPO to 13-yr mark(or 10 years of ownership) is another option, although crossing 10-yr mark can trigger refresh costs(e.g. cooling system, brakes, AT service, suspension pieces) that eat up a chunk of CPO savings.

Is your experience similar to the above?

That is my typical experience.
I keep my CPOs for a.decade or so. My 335i just met with a tragic fate at 13 years old and 220K miles on original turbos with no rattle. I've had it for 10 years. I was already planning a new car so it being a catastrophic end to the 335 is not such a big deal.

Anyway I want Tanzanite, cognac leather, M seats, leather dash, 20" wheels, etc. I also wanted the performance of the dual motor.

I need BMW to open configuration for the US.

[chadkoepf]

I had a M3 on order. I was going to have it individual color, but with the chip shortage it kept getting pushed back, and then they announced the i4, so I cancelled that preorder and ordered the i4. I would probably have the M3 at this point, which would be fun, but I'm wondering if the i4 will allow for individual color options.

[kbsilver]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

12 years and 130k miles on a BMW diesel is a pretty good run, u deserve to get a new ride.

Have u considered G20 330i or 330e, and if so, what are your thoughts on those vs. i4?

While not typical, my BMW Diesel is the most reliable car I've ever owned. It looks and runs as new, likely has at least another 100K miles it her. I decided years ago my next car would be BEV thus only researched those. I chose to wait for the i4 and see what it has to offer rather than to jump right to a Tesla.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by kbsilver

While not typical, my BMW Diesel is the most reliable car I've ever owned. It looks and runs as new, likely has at least another 100K miles it her. I decided years ago my next car would be BEV thus only researched those. I chose to wait for the i4 and see what it has to offer rather than to jump right to a Tesla.

None of our 3 BMWAG products are near the age or mileage you have. But, I have been impressed at the quality of all three…one from 2015 and two from 2018. No defects/repairs on any of them. I check from time to time to make sure it doesn’t show “Toyota” on the back. I have high confidence for future BMWs.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

None of our 3 BMWAG products are near the age or mileage you have. But, I have been impressed at the quality of all three…one from 2015 and two from 2018. No defects/repairs on any of them. I check from time to time to make sure it doesn’t show “Toyota” on the back. I have high confidence for future BMWs.

Is your 2015 228i part of the N20/N26 TC settlement?

2018 B46 should be quite robust and reliable.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

Is your 2015 228i part of the N20/N26 TC settlement?

2018 B46 should be quite robust and reliable.

It could be, but it will age out of the settlement terms long before the mileage might result in having a problem. This is a second car for me...my "toy". My primary DD is the 3GT. But, even beyond the motors, the entire vehicles have been outstanding, including our third vehicle which is my wife's UKL2 platform-based MINI Countryman S, which is a BMW X1 with a new top hat. All superb.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

It could be, but it will age out of the settlement terms long before the mileage might result in having a problem. This is a second car for me...my "toy". My primary DD is the 3GT. But, even beyond the motors, the entire vehicles have been outstanding, including our third vehicle which is my wife's UKL2 platform-based MINI Countryman S, which is a BMW X1 with a new top hat. All superb.

The N20/N26 TC settlement covers up to 2/2015 production dates, and the settlement waives the age restriction till June 2022, and <70k miles is 100% paid by BMWNA.

Does your Mini Countryman S have a 3-cylinder BMW engine?

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

The N20/N26 TC settlement covers up to 2/2015 production dates, and the settlement waives the age restriction till June 2022, and <70k miles is 100% paid by BMWNA.

Does your Mini Countryman S have a 3-cylinder BMW engine?

Yes, I've read the class settlement document. My vehicle is in the suspect population. I filed an objection with the Court in New Jersey to remove the age limit permanently and extend coverage by mileage alone. That was denied. After 7 years of "toy" car service, I am at 20,000 miles. I'll never see the problem while coverage exists, per the settlement terms. I may proactively just have the fix installed, which will be at my own cost. My car would only have been benefitted by a recall campaign. I intend to never sell this car.

The 2018 Countryman S model shares the X1 2.0L powertrain, not the 3 cylinder.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Yes, I've read the class settlement document. My vehicle is in the suspect population. I filed an objection with the Court in New Jersey to remove the age limit permanently and extend coverage by mileage alone. That was rejected. After 7 years of "toy" car service, I am at 20,000 miles. I'll never see the problem while coverage exists, per the settlement terms. I may proactively just have the fix installed, which will be at my own cost. My car would only have been benefitted by a recall campaign.

The 2018 Countryman S model shares the X1 2.0L powertrain, not the 3 cylinder.

Wow 20k miles in 7 years, that 228i coupe is garage queen.

So 66.7% of your fleet is B46 engine(same in my 330i).

I truly hope B46 is rock solid with no TC/engine issue, or else it will be engine-out $$$$$ per TIS.

Having said that, indies in US/Europe figure out fixing N47 back-of-engine TC by transmission removal, so it remains to be seen ....

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

Wow 20k miles in 7 years, that 228i coupe is garage queen.

So 66.7% of your fleet is B46 engine(same in my 330i).

I truly hope B46 is rock solid with no TC/engine issue, or else it will be engine-out $$$$$ per TIS.

Having said that, indies in US/Europe figure out fixing N47 back-of-engine TC by transmission removal, so it remains to be seen ....

Yep...good weather and fun time driving only. Mods that suit me for fun shown in my signature. Back seat never touched. Passenger on rare occasion when my wife feels brave. The i4 will replace the 3 GT for family/DD usage while the "Queen" gets royal treatment. Even has her own clearly defined throne space!

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Yep...good weather and fun time driving only. Mods that suit me for fun shown in my signature. Back seat never touched. Passenger on rare occasion when my wife feels brave. The i4 will replace the 3 GT for family/DD usage while the "Queen" gets royal treatment. Even has her own clearly defined throne space!

That is Valencia Orange, right? I like that better Fire or Sakhir.

My friend has Alpine White 228i coupe base model, it handles like E46!

Do u think the i4 have enough trunk space to carry GT hauling duties?

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

That is Valencia Orange, right? I like that better Fire or Sakhir.

My friend has Alpine White 228i coupe base model, it handles like E46!

Do u think the i4 have enough trunk space to carry GT hauling duties?

Yes, Valencia...

With M2 LCAs, strut tower brace, Dinan Shockware on the MAdaptive suspension, Variable Sport Steering, Michelin PS4S, this one is very entertaining, tight, yet comfortable. With a 4 up front, it feels very "light on its feet".

i4 cargo capacity remains a concern. I need to inspect before ordering. My test will be whether my bike fits inside without removing the front wheel, as it does in the GT. I also want to check on rear seat room for 2 adults.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Yes, Valencia...

With M2 LCAs, strut tower brace, Dinan Shockware on the MAdaptive suspension, Variable Sport Steering, Michelin PS4S, this one is very entertaining, tight, yet comfortable. With a 4 up front, it feels very "light on its feet".

i4 cargo capacity remains a concern. I need to inspect before ordering. My test will be whether my bike fits inside without removing the front wheel, as it does in the GT. I also want to check on rear seat room for 2 adults.

G20 330i's 17 cu-ft requires folded rear seats to fit a road bike without taking off front rim.

My guess is that i4's 17 cu-ft also requires folded rear seats to do the same.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...+cycle+bicycle

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

G20 330i's 17 cu-ft requires folded rear seats to fit a road bike without taking off front rim.

My guess is that i4's 17 cu-ft also requires folded rear seats to do the same.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...+cycle+bicycle

Encouraging, thanks!

Still have Genesis GV70 EV (launches next year) or Mach E as backups.

[kbsilver]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Encouraging, thanks!

Still have Genesis GV70 EV (launches next year) or Mach E as backups.

Mach E was a no go with my wife. She said looks too much like a truck out the front window. She was very happy with the look of the i4 as it's a normal looking "car" and approved the pre-order deposit.

FYI I have always had good luck with BMW's. None of them ever burned any oil, all well over 100K miles (leaking was a different story, our E39 540iT always wanted to leak something - replaced by the 340GT). My first BMW, (sold to another grateful family) 2000 328i 5-speed is still on the road with 250K miles, just got it's first clutch at around 230K miles.

The 335D had the usual emission system issues, all covered. Except what was handled by emission recalls/repairs and normal maintenance, still has all original parts, but I got guilty at 100K and changed the serpentine belt and coolant just because. Remember no spark plugs. Only out of warranty repair on that car (so far) was a glow plug module. Original suspension except I could not stand the way the factory shocks were valved and installed Bilstein B6's quite a while back.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by kbsilver

FYI I have always had good luck with BMW's. None of them ever burned any oil, all well over 100K miles (leaking was a different story, our E39 540iT always wanted to leak something - replaced by the 340GT). My first BMW, (sold to another grateful family) 2000 328i 5-speed is still on the road with 250K miles, just got it's first clutch at around 230K miles.

My previous 2001 E39 530i I6 5MT is still driven by the 2nd owner@210k miles. He spent around $1.5k/10k miles on repairs + maintenance(including tires) at indies.

My 2013 F30 was sold a few months ago at inflated price , my bet is that the 2nd owner of that car likely will spend less than $1k/10k miles on that I4 turbo since it still has 6+ yrs of emission warranty.

[mrsmith]

I'm considering changing from a 840D (diesel) to the i4 M50 .. am I mad ?!

[kbsilver]

Not if it's time for a new car. We have a 340GT with 35K miles, and the 335D with 120K miles. The D is much more fun to drive and would like to keep it over the GT, but that would just be stupid.

Other than the electric vs hydraulic steering, I expect the i4 to feel a lot like the 335D. They are similar in size, the diesel is a heavy car, and the torque of the diesel makes response feel somewhat like electric.

I am looking forward to technology that is more than a decade newer than the D (E90 was designed around 2003). More than once someone asked me why my back-up camera was broken. My answer: It's not broken, I do not have one.

[Hojbjerg]

I just preordered this in Denmark, delivery time unknown. Hopefully in Q1 2022.

BMW i4 M50
S316A automatic trunk lid mechanism
S423A Floor mats, velours
S430A Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S493A Storage compartment package
S494A Seat heating driver/passenger
4AW sensatec dashboard
4U9 Acoustic protection for pedestrians
S534A Automatic air conditioning
5DA Airbag deactivation
S654A DAB tuner
6C3 ConnectedDrive Services:
Remote Services
Real Time Traffic Information
Concierge Service
Connected Music
Apple CarPlay
6WC Widescreen display
S2NHA M Sport brakes
S2VFA Adaptive M suspension
3FA 18″ M aerodynamic wheels 858 M Bicolour with mixed tyres
4LN Aluminium Rhombicle Anthracite M interiør
4V1 BMW IconicSounds Electric
S676A HiFi speaker system
S715A M Aerodynamics package
S754A M Rear spoiler
S760A High gloss shadow line
S775A Headlining anthracite
KGNL Alcantara/Sensatec combination
S3ACA Trailer coupling
S248A Steering wheel heater
5DN Parking Assistant Plus
S4URA Ambient interior lighting
6NX Storage for wireless charging
ZGI Innovation pack
6U3 BMW Live Cockpit Professional
5AZ BMW Laserlight
S420A Sun protection glazing
S322A Comfort access
5AU Driving Assistant Professional
Metallic Portimao Blue

[4monks]

Sadly, you won't get wireless charging. It's not being delivered on any BMWs.

[kbsilver]

Originally Posted by 4monks

Sadly, you won't get wireless charging. It's not being delivered on any BMWs.

? You do mean phone wireless charging. I have it on my 2017 340GT.