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      10-17-2017, 08:19 PM   #45
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Ask?

We are supposed to believe Bill Clinton and Weinstein didn't talk pussy at their parties in the Hamptons? Really?

LOL.
I'm sure they had a hooker pyramid going on.
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We are supposed to believe Bill Clinton and Weinstein didn't talk pussy at their parties in the Hamptons? Really?

LOL.
You mean like locker-room talk? Or was it more serious?

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Sleazy fuck. How exactly was everybody he donated to supposed to know what was going on again?
Right, because some how no one knew that Hollywood is packed full of sleazy sexual predators\producers. Come on this is common knowledge and it has been going on since the 1920s.
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Right, because some how no one knew that Hollywood is packed full of sleazy sexual predators\producers. Come on this is common knowledge and it has been going on since the 1920s.
Right? I don't understand how politics has anything to do with anything here.
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Right? I don't understand how politics has anything to do with anything here.
Absolutely I dosn't have a damn thing to do with it. Fact is Hollywood is packed full of butt crack nasty trolls that could never pull anything higher than a 3, who are fucking 10s because it's either "fuck me and get the part or fuck off and go back to working at Starbucks".
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This thread is evidence as to why people like Weinstein get away with what they do. Some of you are nothing more than pieces of shit just like him.

Bottom line is the man is a sexual predator who managed to hide it through pure power over people's livelihoods for years. That's the MO of people like him. However, those of you who are busy name calling others, victim blaming, and victim shaming belong in the same jail cell as him.

Disgusting thread.
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This thread is evidence as to why people like Weinstein get away with what they do. Some of you are nothing more than pieces of shit just like him.

Bottom line is the man is a sexual predator who managed to hide it through pure power over people's livelihoods for years. That's the MO of people like him. However, those of you who are busy name calling others, victim blaming, and victim shaming belong in the same jail cell as him.

Disgusting thread.
Where were the posts that defended him?
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Where were the posts that defended him?
No one's dumb enough to openly defend him, but the veiled (or not so veiled) victim blaming amounts to the same thing:

No but for Hollywood this type is stuff is the norm it's been going on since the beginning. And like I said you have to be delusional to think he's the only one doing this shit. Of course then you have the self proclaimed Hollywood women's rights championship who know this shit goes on but keep silent about it.

Purely for from the entertainment standpoint if Weinstein is getting called out along with all the other predatory producers etc, then I hope that all the actresses who chose to sleep their way to the top get called out too.

Honestly its a two sided problem no matter what the feminists say. I have friends with money that have had woman throw themselfs at in the most blatant, scandalist and predatory way was well.


Shower then drinky. Maybe, drinky in shower. I blew today. Someone had a stinkeye on me or something.


Can we go back to speculating which actresses slept their way into fame?


Fact is Hollywood is packed full of butt crack nasty trolls that could never pull anything higher than a 3, who are fucking 10s because it's either "fuck me and get the part or fuck off and go back to working at Starbucks".


And there's this detestable comment: Certainly the girls that said they were raped get a pass and I'll feel sorry for. Everyone else made their own bed IMO. Like sexual assault and harassment don't count? It's only rape that's bad?

And that's with steering clear of the moronic back and forth about political views, Trump, the Clintons, etc which simply serves to trivialize what Weinstein is and what he's alleged to have done.
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No one's dumb enough to openly defend him, but the veiled (or not so veiled) victim blaming amounts to the same thing:

No but for Hollywood this type is stuff is the norm it's been going on since the beginning. And like I said you have to be delusional to think he's the only one doing this shit. Of course then you have the self proclaimed Hollywood women's rights championship who know this shit goes on but keep silent about it.

Purely for from the entertainment standpoint if Weinstein is getting called out along with all the other predatory producers etc, then I hope that all the actresses who chose to sleep their way to the top get called out too.

Honestly its a two sided problem no matter what the feminists say. I have friends with money that have had woman throw themselfs at in the most blatant, scandalist and predatory way was well.


Shower then drinky. Maybe, drinky in shower. I blew today. Someone had a stinkeye on me or something.


Can we go back to speculating which actresses slept their way into fame?


Fact is Hollywood is packed full of butt crack nasty trolls that could never pull anything higher than a 3, who are fucking 10s because it's either "fuck me and get the part or fuck off and go back to working at Starbucks".


And there's this detestable comment: Certainly the girls that said they were raped get a pass and I'll feel sorry for. Everyone else made their own bed IMO. Like sexual assault and harassment don't count? It's only rape that's bad?

And that's with steering clear of the moronic back and forth about political views, Trump, the Clintons, etc which simply serves to trivialize what Weinstein is and what he's alleged to have done.
None of that says anything about supporting or approving of what he has done. But you have to be silly to not believe that there are those that "have slept their way to the top" and are not victims of anything but their own greed and drive for stardom. That does not justify his actions.
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None of that says anything about supporting or approving of what he has done. But you have to be silly to not believe that there are those that "have slept their way to the top" and are not victims of anything but their own greed and drive for stardom. That does not justify his actions.
Not sure that I agree. At best, the comments trivialize the victims. At worst, they suggest that they somehow deserved.

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Keep on defending this guy:

FWIW, I've never gone onto this forum and tried to extoll the virtues of the great Harvey Weinstein. I've never started a thread to discuss what a wonderful candidate for the President of the United States he was.

On the other hand, the right-wingers on this forum have been frothing at the mouth to present Trump as the best person to represent their views. Here are his words:
Kind of funny how Trump get's slammed by the left because you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth, yet this quote makes him guilty of being a sexual predator. He was talking out of his ass trying to look cool like he always does.
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Right, because some how no one knew that Hollywood is packed full of sleazy sexual predators\producers. Come on this is common knowledge and it has been going on since the 1920s.
No doubt there’s a bunch, not just in Hollywood but anywhere there’s power. Still not reasonable to think that everybody does what he does.
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I've seen the damage people like this do first hand and up close way too often. Anything that serves to minimize their conduct deserves to be called out and I don't feel the slightest bit of concern for calling you out.

Equating victims of sexual predation with those who "sleep their way to the top" is bullshit.

Have you even read this thread! You take issue with me but OP is fine even though he basically said everything short of rape is OK, they deserved it. And you wonder why I'm not impressed?

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None of that says anything about supporting or approving of what he has done. But you have to be silly to not believe that there are those that "have slept their way to the top" and are not victims of anything but their own greed and drive for stardom. That does not justify his actions.
Here's a question:
If a prominent producer tells an aspiring actress, "Have sex with me, and you will get this role. But if you don't, you'll never get any role anywhere ever again," how much blame goes to the actress if she agrees to it? A simple percentage of blame will suffice as an answer.
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No one's dumb enough to openly defend him, but the veiled (or not so veiled) victim blaming amounts to the same thing:

No but for Hollywood this type is stuff is the norm it's been going on since the beginning. And like I said you have to be delusional to think he's the only one doing this shit. Of course then you have the self proclaimed Hollywood women's rights championship who know this shit goes on but keep silent about it.

Purely for from the entertainment standpoint if Weinstein is getting called out along with all the other predatory producers etc, then I hope that all the actresses who chose to sleep their way to the top get called out too.

Honestly its a two sided problem no matter what the feminists say. I have friends with money that have had woman throw themselfs at in the most blatant, scandalist and predatory way was well.


Shower then drinky. Maybe, drinky in shower. I blew today. Someone had a stinkeye on me or something.


Can we go back to speculating which actresses slept their way into fame?


Fact is Hollywood is packed full of butt crack nasty trolls that could never pull anything higher than a 3, who are fucking 10s because it's either "fuck me and get the part or fuck off and go back to working at Starbucks".


And there's this detestable comment: Certainly the girls that said they were raped get a pass and I'll feel sorry for. Everyone else made their own bed IMO. Like sexual assault and harassment don't count? It's only rape that's bad?

And that's with steering clear of the moronic back and forth about political views, Trump, the Clintons, etc which simply serves to trivialize what Weinstein is and what he's alleged to have done.
Slow down a second. That was about myself. I was saying I was logging off and needed a drink after a bad round of golf.
????

On another note:
Bill Clinton set up a defense fund while battling charges. People could donate up to 10,000. Weinstein, 10K donation.

And another:
How and why do actual movies blend in the whole sex for work thing?
Two, off the top of my head.
The Godfather part II and The Phantom of the Opera.
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Hollywood protecting Hollywood.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...criticism.html

NOW they're sorry.
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I've seen the damage people like this do first hand and up close way too often. Anything that serves to minimize their conduct deserves to be called out and I don't feel the slightest bit of concern for calling you out.
No one is minimizing the conduct of Weinstein. He is trash. Whats being exposed is way bigger than him.

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Equating victims of sexual predation with those who "sleep their way to the top" is bullshit and your equivocation doesn't mask your meaning.
I really don't mean to offend you by saying this, but plenty of woman were happy to make the trade. I'm sorry but thats true. Ill go further and say many actresses (and actors) even instigated the idea to get a part in exchange for sex. Its no different then gold digging which is a very real phenomenon. I've seen it in person more times then I can count. Its a two way street.

I have a personal friend who had a woman remove the condom from a trash can after sex and impregnate herself with the semen from it. She bragged to her friends how she did it to a "millionaire" and never has to work again. Poor delicate flower, or methodical predator?

The whole argument that a female actresses is somehow an injured doe on the serengeti in Hollywood simply isn't true.

I feel for the victims of rape and sexual assault which I should add happens to BOTH men and woman (yet somehow this seems to be a "female victim only" topic.) I DON'T condone it, and the perpetrators should go to prison. That said not everything being uncovered here is sexual assault or rape, but rather a toxic culture that is perpetuated by all involved. BTW those that said nothing, but knew were also involved, but couldn't risk giving up the drug hollywood was feeding into their veins.

I for one find it fascinating to watch it crumble and see everyone pay their PR teams to carefully try and protect their personal brands. I personally believe (just my opinion) that many of the people denying they knew anything were probably directly involved (both male and female).

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Have you even read this thread! You take issue with me but OP is fine even though he basically said everything short of rape is OK, they deserved it. And you wonder why I'm not impressed?
I think I might give woman more credit then you do. I believe both men and woman are strong enough to turn down an offer which involves sex if they decided they don't want to partake. I didn't say anyone deserved anything. I said I don't feel sorry for the people in hollywood involved in this unless they were raped or sexually assaulted. I insinuated that for every 1 woman speaking out about turning down an offer I was curious to know how many made the decision to accept one, or even instigate the idea themselfs. Im going to go out on a lim and guess that ration is probably 100/1.

Im sorry, but I refuse to accept that only the men in hollywood are monsters, and woman are victims that had no choice if they went through with an offer. Thats bullshit.
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Here's a question:
If a prominent producer tells an aspiring actress, "Have sex with me, and you will get this role. But if you don't, you'll never get any role anywhere ever again," how much blame goes to the actress if she agrees to it? A simple percentage of blame will suffice as an answer.
The actress has a choice - 100% of her decision is on her. It's a bad situation, but it is her choice. The person is a scumbag for putting her in that situation, but it is her choice in the end. People are forced to make hard decisions every day.
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It seems I need to say this again. The original post says that rape's not OK, but that the others probably deserved what they got. From there, pages of posts without a single person (until me) calling that out. Sassicaia , I've read your response ... it's pure horseshit. You said what you said which is that women sometimes deserve to be sexually harassed.

From there, no one calls the OP out but gets into this stupid debate about whether what Clinton was accused of is worse or better than Trump. Who cares?

Some of you are parents and here's the truth: your daughters will be victims of sexual harassment (and other sexual misconduct). Guaranteed. And it is attitudes like those present in this thread that will explain why they don't feel empowered to stand up against it and why so many of them will engage in misguided self-recrimination and self-loathing over what they did to bring it on themselves.

As for these:

I believe both men and woman are strong enough to turn down an offer which involves sex if they decided they don't want to partake.

The actress has a choice - 100% of her decision is on her. It's a bad situation, but it is her choice. The person is a scumbag for putting her in that situation, but it is her choice in the end. People are forced to make hard decisions every day.


The most generous thing I can say about you is that you don't have the slightest fucking clue about what you're talking about.
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