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      Today, 04:45 PM   #9021
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chris719 , AlexFL ...any comments?
Yep, this is quite shocking... We need randomized double blind placebo control studies to HCQ/CQ effects in COVID patients.
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No new Controlavirus cases from the Ozarks. Fear doom porn wrong again and again. By all means though, keep everyone locked in their homes, six feet apart, and breathing in C02 from dumbass masks.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...d0f6510ac.html

What a fucking scam.
The media ran with this study, used it on full attack mode. Surgisphere is a so sketchy. 11 employees, two of which are a sci-fi writer and adult content model.
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Yep, this is quite shocking... We need randomized double blind placebo control studies to HCQ/CQ effects in COVID patients.
Why is it shocking? Did you actually read it?
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Why is it shocking? Did you actually read it?
Yes, I read it. In any case, let's wait and see what future studies show.
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Yes, I read it. In any case, let's wait and see what future studies show.
Interesting. And you saw NOTHING wrong with it?

I've learned a lot about you in our exchanges and this is the coup de gras.

Have you reached out to Richard, yet?
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      Today, 05:19 PM   #9027
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Interesting. And you saw NOTHING wrong with it?

I've learned a lot about you in our exchanges and this is the coup de gras.

Have you reached out to Richard, yet?
IDGAF. Relax and move on with your life.
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IDGAF. Relax and move on with your life.
My life always moves on. Will you have a little integrity and admit you're wrong? I did so earlier today in another thread.

Considering you belittled me, called me all kinds of BS and impugned my intelligence I'd think something would be in order since I was 100% correct that the study was bullshit.
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My life always moves on. Will you have a little integrity and admit you're wrong? I did so earlier today in another thread.

Considering you belittled me, called me all kinds of BS and impugned my intelligence I'd think something would be in order since I was 100% correct that the study was bullshit.
There was no way for you and me to know that the primary data were manipulated by Surgisphere. They also retracted a second paper in NEJM. I'm sorry you felt belittled by me. This was not my intention. These are stressful times for all of us and there is a deep partisan division in our nation. Even science gets politicized from both sides of the aisle.

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Don't worry, there's no need to rehash that. We've already clearly pointed out his biases and M.O. while he did a fine job himself showing off how little he knows of statistics in the last go around.
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I must say he is reasonably good at pretending to be a scientist. Of course, you can see here and there that he just makes some shit up (e.g. when he says stuff like “I count among my colleagues and friends 4 of the top researchers in the metabolic world. They are, collectively, responsible for most of the drug research that has occurred in that world over the past 25 years”. Muahaha....).
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This was perhaps my favorite passage: “And just for additional edification here are all of the disease states that I have extensive training and experience (years) in: Endocrinology (12), Oncology (4), Cardiovascular (8), Gastrointestinal (4), Urology (4), Respiratory (6), Neurology-Addiction (5), Neurology-Pain Management (5), and Infectious Disease (8).“

God damn it, this man has 56 years of experience in all those highly specialized medical fields. Some sort of neomodern Paracelsius...
These are my particular favorites.
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There was no way for you and me to know that the primary data were manipulated by Surgisphere. They also retracted a second paper in NEJM. This was not my intention. These are stressful times for all of us and there is a deep partisan division in our nation. Even science gets politicized from both sides of the aisle.
The data was a nothing burger which showed little difference from the package insert. Further, the narrative was built on clouds of nothing and you both bought it Hook, Line, and Sinker.

And I called it out as politicized even offering a concluding statement that would have mitigated the clearly partisan language that was evident in the aforementioned concluding statement.
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The data was a nothing burger which showed little difference from the package insert. Further, the narrative was built on clouds of nothing and you both bought it Hook, Line, and Sinker.

And I called it out as politicized even offering a concluding statement that would have mitigated the clearly partisan language that was evident in the aforementioned concluding statement.
So who are those four top researchers in the "metabolic world" you were talking about? Guys who were supposedly "responsible for most of the drug research that has occurred in that world over the past 25 years".
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So who are those four top researchers in the "metabolic world" you were talking about? Guys who were supposedly "responsible for most of the drug research that has occurred in that world over the past 25 years".
Lol! You're pathetic. Just as I thought you were since you couldn't stand a dissenting opinion.

Now you try to deflect.

Great job in confirming who you are for all to see. You have no integrity and I feel sorry for anyone associated with you on a personal level and God help us all of you reproduce and saddle society with more of your BS.
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Lol! You're pathetic. Just as I thought you were since you couldn't stand a dissenting opinion.

Now you try to deflect.

Great job in confirming who you are for all to see. You have no integrity and I feel sorry for anyone associated with you on a personal level and God help us all of you reproduce and saddle society with more of your BS.
Still waiting for those names... Stop the insults and give us few names
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Lol! You're pathetic. Just as I thought you were since you couldn't stand a dissenting opinion.

Now you try to deflect.

Great job in confirming who you are for all to see. You have no integrity and I feel sorry for anyone associated with you on a personal level and God help us all of you reproduce and saddle society with more of your BS.
Don't feel bad, I didn't get an answer either

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chris719 , AlexFL ...any comments?
it amazing how many people fell for that hot garbage of a report. Just looking at smoking population being nearly identical in all the region expose that it was made up data as anyone who travel would know Europe and Asia has a much higher smoking rate then USA and the chance that people who contracted covid would be around 10% smokers between all those population should have been a huge red flag.
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Don't feel bad, I didn't get an answer either

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Answer to what exactly? Paper got retracted. We still don’t know if CQ/HCQ help with COVID-19.
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Answer to what exactly? Paper got retracted. We still don’t know if CQ/HCQ help with COVID-19.
how are we suppose to know when hot garbage reports like this pop up and the WHO once again sabotage research on the drug by scaring all the countries to stop medical treatment immediately even getting some nation to make it illegal for use.
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how are we suppose to know when hot garbage reports like this pop up and the WHO once again sabotage research on the drug by scaring all the countries to stop medical treatment immediately even getting some nation to make it illegal for use.
I'm too busy for this BS at the moment, but it's not some deep conspiracy, at best it just doesn't fucking work very well. Just about every patient in the Northwell Health / North Shore / ProHEALTH hospital network was getting this drug throughout March and April. It does not seem to help, they have stopped giving it.

There are other studies from other countries including South Korea that conclude the same. Believe what you want, there's no indication it works. There are still several ongoing trials.
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These are my particular favorites.
My quote is entirely correct and had nothing to do with HCQ or this discussion. You very clearly demonstrated you are clueless when it comes to statistics. Do we need to get NBA Jam back in here to school you again? Do you really want to revisit those pages where you got totally embarrassed?

Stick to tacitly pushing your conspiracy theories, that's the only thing you are good at.

I don't know why you are lumping me in with AlexFL anyway? I don't know him and I haven't had a chance to read this BS about a retracted paper. I guess it's a badge of honor considering he's not a biased wannabe scientist.

Anyway, I have better things to do these days than argue with the likes of you. You and NormanConquest can take your HCQ and enjoy the nightmares.

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