[Pedal2Floor]

Originally Posted by Tortfeasor 335xi

Hah! That was true 20 years ago. Now you have to go to grad school, graduate and have 5+ years of experience in your field to get a decent job. College degrees don't get you anywhere anymore. Even if you are top of your class with a degree in math and have a couple of good interviews lined up with insurance companies to become an actuary you may not get a good job at decent pay. There are too many people with a whole lot of experience out of work for a college grad with no experience and no connections to get a good job. Good luck out there.

First off, why do you believe that if you are just getting out of college and have no experience should you be getting 70K?

I do agree there are a sea of resumes out there right now and college grads are low on the list -- but not in every industry or every area of the country. The hot fields and profession are still hot.

I believe in a lot of fields, once you hit the 5yr experience mark things change and it takes about that long to build up to a salary of about 70K depending a lot on the profession/industry you are in.

I have a cousin who is a forensic accountant -- and yeah she had to get a BA, then she had to get a graduate degree and pass CFA and CPA but she did this over a 5/6 yr period plus she is very, very good at her job and now pulls about 110K -- having a brain and being in a profession that is in demand helps

I also know a few who are went into nursing and do very well at about 80K/yr but what surprised me the most was someone I met who was a diesel mechanic and whose brother is auto tranny specialist and they both make 125K

A lot will depend what is in demand and what will have future demand. For example, in IT you are better off going into software/network security versus just building some servers and if really want to program, it better be in a hot area like Mobile Computing.

Short of attorneys and some people who go directly onto wall street, few professions make big bucks by just getting a degree.

[MCMLXXXIX]

Originally Posted by jayely1

What is a Package design??

its basically just like product design. designing bottles, containers, packaging concepts...the such, its cooler than it seems lol. i dont think you can study Package Design as a major, youd have to do Industrial Design which covers that area...Industrial Design branches into lots of design areas such as cars, toys, packages, furniture, jewerly

[wj4]

Originally Posted by BForbes

I'll edit it for you.

I say go for something in IT. Not a lot of jobs start off at 70k. I'd say most jobs that start off at 40k will take you about 15yrs to get to 70k. My .02

I agree with it being hard to be able to get a job fresh out of college that pays 70K. But 15 yrs to advance to 70K?! I'm going to say more like 5 years. This is from the experience of people I know and myself.

[jayely1]

doesn't sound to bad! I might have to check that out. PM me if you have any more info that would be great!!

[RRGOO7]

Do what you like. Look for a job that you have potential in going somewhere (moving up salary wise). You dont want to start with a decent salary but not have anywhere to go.

[Jammin Jason]

nursing ftw

LVN starts at 30k
RN starts at 60K and goes up to 70-80k through experience (bachelors degree)


my aunts been in the business for over 20 years and she's an RN Supervisor and she banks a little over 100k a year, but she has her Masters degree.

[jayely1]

Nurse means blood

[Heinzftw]

Originally Posted by jayely1

Nurse means blood

Best of luck to whatever you do. A general business degree will do good. But, try and focus in on getting a business degree that make you standout from the crowd. If you really want to start out at 70k+ then why not go balls out and stay in college for another 2 years? Masters degree WILL fetch 70k+ if not more very easily. Btw good if you really want to be a car salesman then you better know your shit.

[number335]

Go into real estate right now. Buy a bunch of undervalued properties and rent them out. People are already taking advantage of the interest rates and buying homes so the demand is going up again.

[jayely1]

Im not looking for a job right now, who knows how the economy will be in 2 years. Bachelors in business is what I'm sure I will go for. Just don't know exactly what I would want to do and was looking for suggestions to open my mind up a little.

[wj4]

Originally Posted by Jammin Jason

nursing ftw

LVN starts at 30k
RN starts at 60K and goes up to 70-80k through experience (bachelors degree)


my aunts been in the business for over 20 years and she's an RN Supervisor and she banks a little over 100k a year, but she has her Masters degree.

You need a bachelor to be a nurse? I thought you just go take the program at a JuCo or CC and take the exam to get in. At least that's what a bunch of kids I knew from HS did.

[GOLFFRR]

become a blackjack dealer those guys at my work make 70k easily.

[jayely1]

Dude.... Are you being serious...... God be with you and good luck.....

What does that mean?

[Jet335i]

all depends on the field....A lot of money with good potential is a sales job, in relatively recession-proof arenas. Brand pharma used to be like that, but obviously not anymore.

The corporate world is tough to move up in quickly in terms of salary - to really make big jumps you have to move around companies, which isn't ideal right now...I was fortunate that I jumped up in salary pretty quickly and I made 80K 3 years out of school, and now moving onto a job where I'll be pulling in 6 figures (4 years out of school, but I have to move to a high-cost area so I lose something there). Keep in mind I'm not even in a finance job and I "only" have a BA in econ.

Cost of living can also affect corpororate salaries...so 6 figures in orange county would be like 70K in florida (not exact, but you get the idea). But even a lot of money won't hide your disdain for a shitty job for THAT long. Build your career choice along what you WANT to do, not what the pay scales are.


just my .02

[Heinzftw]

Originally Posted by Jet335i

all depends on the field....A lot of money with good potential is a sales job, in relatively recession-proof arenas. Brand pharma used to be like that, but obviously not anymore.

The corporate world is tough to move up in quickly in terms of salary - to really make big jumps you have to move around companies, which isn't ideal right now...I was fortunate that I jumped up in salary pretty quickly and I made 80K 3 years out of school, and now moving onto a job where I'll be pulling in 6 figures (4 years out of school, but I have to move to a high-cost area so I lose something there). Keep in mind I'm not even in a finance job and I "only" have a BA in econ.

Cost of living can also affect corpororate salaries...so 6 figures in orange county would be like 70K in florida (not exact, but you get the idea). But even a lot of money won't hide your disdain for a shitty job for THAT long. Build your career choice along what you WANT to do, not what the pay scales are.


just my .02

I totally understand that. Living in an area that has homes that are over 1+million will consume much of the 6 figures one makes.

[MontegoGoGoGo]

Instead of focusing on the money, why don't you think about what you LIKE and ENJOY?

If you find your passion, success will definitely follow. That's what I did.

I read an article last year that said 80% of Americans HATE their jobs.

P.S. - Owing your own business is the best way to go, IMO - but you need experience in the field you choose first.

[jayely1]

all depends on the field....A lot of money with good potential is a sales job, in relatively recession-proof arenas. Brand pharma used to be like that, but obviously not anymore.

The corporate world is tough to move up in quickly in terms of salary - to really make big jumps you have to move around companies, which isn't ideal right now...I was fortunate that I jumped up in salary pretty quickly and I made 80K 3 years out of school, and now moving onto a job where I'll be pulling in 6 figures (4 years out of school, but I have to move to a high-cost area so I lose something there). Keep in mind I'm not even in a finance job and I "only" have a BA in econ.

Cost of living can also affect corpororate salaries...so 6 figures in orange county would be like 70K in florida (not exact, but you get the idea). But even a lot of money won't hide your disdain for a shitty job for THAT long. Build your career choice along what you WANT to do, not what the pay scales are.


just my .02

Good advice. I just want to make decent money when Im older and have nice things. Sounds like your doing verry well.

[yomama69]

Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

college graduates can def start over 70k

my professor last semester, his first job was in package design, made $80K a year. i hope to be just like that lol

Packaging engineering is a specialized field. Any engineering field will start at 70K.

BTW, OP, 70K isn't really a lot of money, especially in a higher COL market.

[jayely1]

Instead of focusing on the money, why don't you think about what you LIKE and ENJOY?

If you find your passion, success will definitely follow. That's what I did.

I read an article last year that said 80% of Americans HATE their jobs.

P.S. - Owing your own business is the best way to go, IMO - but you need experience in the field you choose first.

Thats why I want to be a car salesman I think I would love it. But long hours kind of pushes me away.

[jayely1]

yomama69 how much you banking a year! lol

[yomama69]

Originally Posted by jayely1

yomama69 how much you banking a year! lol

I have 2 degrees including a doctorate and my wife is in hospital admin. We do pretty well, especially for our ages.

[jayely1]

wow both you over $200k then!?