[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Blue Angel

Except if you need a vehicle that has none of the many drawbacks of an EV, but still want the efficiency of an EV for daily commuting. PHEV makes perfect sense and the market seems to agree.

Plug in hybrid might make perfect sense for a second car.

But I personally will never own one.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

What do you mean electric is clearly way beyong anything ICE has to offer [non-performance cars]? Just looking to understand your viewpoint

I personally am against the complexity of a hybrid. I’d much rather drive full electric.

But in certain parts of the world people want a performance gas car, but they’re gonna need electric when they drive into the city. For an example London.

So you drive into the city on full electric and then once you leave the city, you can fire up the fire breathing dragon again… 🤣

Once weight of the battery and the platforms can be reduced to something reasonable and the suspension and the tires aren’t being taxed by the extra weight then I believe the ice platform will drop off the face of the Earth.

I’m on my fifth EV in 10+ years.

My M car will eventually be replaced by an electric sports car, it’s just a matter of time. I have my eye on the upcoming Porsche 718 electric as the replacement.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

What does that even mean?

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I can confirm BMW EV's are sitting on lots and dealers are desperate to give them away in Vancouver, Canada. I never come across with BMW Canada offer that low lease interest rate (1.99%)

It’s not just EV’s… They have to give huge incentives right now including low rates because the bank rates are ridiculous

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Once weight of the battery and the platforms can be reduced to something reasonable and the suspension and the tires aren’t being taxed by the extra weight then I believe the ice platform will drop off the face of the Earth.

I agree. Eventually EV will make more sense once battery tech achieves a certain cost/energy density, we'll hit a tipping point and the market will shift.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Blue Angel

I agree. Eventually EV will make more sense once battery tech achieves a certain cost/energy density, we'll hit a tipping point and the market will shift.

Absolutely, it’s just a matter of time

The dominos are already in motion… 💨

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I personally am against the complexity of a hybrid. I’d much rather drive full electric.

But in certain parts of the world people want a performance gas car, but they’re gonna need electric when they drive into the city. For an example London.

So you drive into the city on full electric and then once you leave the city, you can fire up the fire breathing dragon again… 🤣

Once weight of the battery and the platforms can be reduced to something reasonable and the suspension and the tires aren’t being taxed by the extra weight then I believe the ice platform will drop off the face of the Earth.

I’m on my fifth EV in 10+ years.

My M car will eventually be replaced by an electric sports car, it’s just a matter of time. I have my eye on the upcoming Porsche 718 electric as the replacement.

All fair points. I am very much in agreement that the complexity of a hybrid (essentially you have 2 drivetrains / 2 engines) is not good. But imo, non-electric enthusiasts, will want it to overcome range exiety especially as infrastructure is built out. In that meantime dealerships, indy shops, and DIY youtube pages will be working overtime to pickup the elevated service demand.

I may disagree that the ice platform drops off the planet, the suburbs and country regions will hold onto them for a long time.

Best,
Antz

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

I may disagree that the ice platform drops off the planet, the suburbs and country regions will hold onto them for a long time.

It’s for this exact reason I could see gasoline being phased out, but diesel living well into the future. It may not be as clean as gasoline, but industry runs on diesel and it’s going to be a very long time before batteries can replace it.

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