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Tesla has everybody beat with their batteries, their battery factories, and they're supercharger network That's just the reality of it all… BMW is at least five years or more behind in the EV race
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1) Tesla has absolute global industry leadership (pending Lucid) on batteries, electric powertrains, and recharging network. No question. They earned respect for this and deserve it. 2) Almost every other brand leads Tesla in the ability wrap a quality automobile around those best-in-class, state of the art components, as reported and documented by Tesla's own owner body in large sample data. Remains such a shame Tesla didn't partner with a company who knows how to design and assemble the rest of the vehicle. High sales volume is not a rebuttal. McD sells lots of hamburgers and some may think that is good food.
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I have seen too many of your kind - Tesla fanatics, who would keep defending Tesla to no ends. And it's the typical bragging about EV and battery tech, insane acceleration etc, and the willingness to overlook everything else including the glaring deficiencies I pointed out. |
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I agree the quality isn't a comparison but they have everyone in the technology arena Sandy says the Model Y is the best EV made currently and the only one he'd buy, snd actually owns one as well
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https://www.thedrive.com/tech/36274/...rade-fake-wood Tesla is a company of powertrain/battery leading edge experts...but automotive amateurs. "Rome" may take decades to build at this rate for them.
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Sandy is the Almanac and know all of reverse engineering, and he knows the cost Analysis and the technical breakdowns of every car made today and according to him Tesla is 5-7 years ahead of every other EV made today regardless of the manufacture And that refers to the car not the Supercharger network or their clear advantage of battery technology which smokes everybody to date I trust his knowledge if you are tuned in you'd know he's the gospel of facts and he understands more than anyone else period
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A good tear down Engineer is highly valuable to a manufacturer to help guide design and cost efficiencies. As to pronouncements to the overall consumer quality experience of owning/driving a car...not so much and certainly not gospel.
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Although he did like VW's modular designed e motor cradle
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With EV technology, batteries, motors, no doubt that it true and no disagreement there. If I had my own car company, I would source EV powertrains from Tesla, if they had such a business model. But, that is where it ends. I would not be interested his design office, body engineering, suspension engineering, assembly, paint, interior trim, etc.
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That said, recent reviews of the new Model S Plaid shows huge improvements in quality and fit and finish of the entire car So there is hope in that regard
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Good point and true!
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There's enough censorship in this world right now so my apologies but hopefully you can get over it
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Another good point! This forum has been very quiet so any opportunity to engage with another smart and interesting member is welcome, even if we stray a bit. Not like we are blocking out a mainstream of conversation. Wish there was more going on here!
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Likewise And well said I might add
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Okay, they're good at battery tech and EV performance. But how much better they can get? I think it's fair to make the argument that performance and battery life won't matter in near future. Once you reach 500 miles range, and 0-60 in 2 sec, there's nowhere else to go except for maybe decreasing battery weight. My point is, Tesla is great at EV performance and batteries; which won't matter at all once a certain threshold is reached by all manufacturers. Everything else will be differentiating factors: driving experience, weight management, interior comfort and quality. Everything that Tesla is bad at.
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