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      02-11-2020, 04:14 PM   #67
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I have spent about a decade in the car business and even if you are going with the more "reliable" brands like lexus you are almost always better off leasing 99 percent of the time. New car every 3 years, always under warranty, no worry of depreciation if its in an accident, etc. In my store more than 95 percent of new car deals are leases.
My cost per mile begs to differ. Depreciation is a bitch.
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I like a lot of his stuff, but he thinks of cars as appliances and bases all of his judgement on the ability of a car to last 200-300K miles or more.
This is Kilmer in a nutshell. Some people like to have fun with their cars.
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1. BMW realized they put the N54 into two many models, and brought out the N55. 2. Anyone who buys a used BMW with no research is asking for trouble.
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There's no magic in Toyota's reliability. They have been using largely the same drivetrains for decades. The recently retired MZ engine dates back to the early 90's and the current GR engine used in most Toyotas and Lexus vehicles dates back to 2002. If BMW kept offering vehicles with the same engines they did 15-20 years ago they would be out of business today as buyers of this class expect the latest and greatest in powerplants.
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Have no interest in clicking it with the link.

Funny thing is that many people who bought an old poor person's BMW has seen some slight increase in their car's value, haha.

But I do get the point that some people try to floss by buying a BMW when they have no business buying one as the upkeep costs are a bit more than a 1995 Toyota Tercel or Corolla.

I think I need to find a grandma owned Corolla.
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There's no magic in Toyota's reliability. They have been using largely the same drivetrains for decades. The recently retired MZ engine dates back to the early 90's and the current GR engine used in most Toyotas and Lexus vehicles dates back to 2002. If BMW kept offering vehicles with the same engines they did 15-20 years ago they would be out of business today as buyers of this class expect the latest and greatest in powerplants.
There are two books 1) The Machine That Changed the World
and 2) Notes From Toyota-land

Both these book support and refute your statement. It's complicated.
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I mean, the biggest issue with BMWs are shitty gaskets/seals causing oil leaks. If they can fix that then maintenance costs would go down. The easy solution of course is to carry an extra quart of oil and ignore the leaks, as most (not all [stupid OFHG leaking onto belts]) won't cause major immediate issues.
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