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      03-03-2020, 03:18 PM   #1
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VIDEO : BMW I4 First look

what a really nice loook and technology

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      03-06-2020, 12:11 PM   #2
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I feeling it. But am I feeling it more than the Rivian. Ugh, I don't know. Have some time to think about this...

It's a BMW and I can expect reliability, good build quality, and good service.
It's going to be half the price of the Rivian.
Leasing will be available day one.
Its going to be way sportier than the Truck though not as fast.

It shares a design with a ICE variant.
Its the size of the Rivian Truck but its not as useful as a Truck.
Auto pilot and tech likely behind Rivian (unknown).
Appears to have less headroom than the i3 and Rivian (I'm 6' 5", will I fit?)
The ride quality of the current 4 series is questionable. Rivan has air suspension.
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      03-14-2020, 09:19 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Gonven View Post
what a really nice loook and technology ;
I'm in the market for a second EV, so am definitely interested in i4.
Even though it's not due to hit our shores until late 2021.

However, a few things do not add up.
  • 523 hp with dual motors, yet 0-60 is 4+ seconds?
    Tesla Model 3 Performance does way better with ~450hp.
    Tesla Model 3 AWD does about the same with ~346 hp.
    Both weight in at very porky ~4,070 lbs.
    How much heavier would i4 have to be to be THAT much slower with a 3-series body? 5,000 lbs?
  • My F80 M3 has massive traction issues with 425 hp. Stuffing 523 hp single motor into RWD-only chassis is just pure waste.
  • 80 Kwh battery is adequate, but if the car is THAT much heavier than Model 3, how realistic is it to extract 373 mi WLTP / 270 mi EPA range out of it? I suspect the final range will be lower than that.
  • Range of ~270 miles may not be as good as that of a Tesla, but might be just good enough. For 2020.
    Trouble is, BMW wont be selling i4 until +1.5 years down the road.
    By that time, the range is likely to fall further behind what will be the "average" in the marketplace.

Net-net, if BMW prices i4 at a discount to Model 3 (e.g.: below $49K today, likely below $45K in late 2021), i4 will sell.

Trouble is, I don't think BMW NA is mentally prepared to concede that BMW brand has lost premium status vs. Tesla.
So they will likely try to price it at a premium to Model 3. In which case, it will be a yet another attractive EV sales dud, similar to Jag iPace ($69+K) and Audi eTron ($75+K).

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      03-19-2020, 01:37 AM   #4

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It’s beautiful and more like a common BMW. The big grille does not make it quirky enough for the i-range. I would have liked an i-member not to have such a long useless nose
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