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Featured on BIMMERPOST.com This is interesting. Just like on the xDrive50 model, the various perforated sensatec upholstery options come standard at no additional cost, however while the upgrade to leather is a $2450 option for the xDrive50, it appears to be a $3500 option for the M60. What gives? Does the M60 get more leather? Or that just M-Sport model "tax" for the same damn option? Despite this, it seems the M60 really can look like a compelling option for anyone who was already considering ordering a loaded xDrive50 model. A fully loaded xDrive50 comes in at essentially the base price of the M60 which already includes many option packages as standard. The only things missing from a base $106k M60 versus a loaded $105k xDrive50 are the $1100 luxury package, $1900 driving assistance pro pkg, $3500 leather option, $950 22" wheel option, and the $500 titanium bronze trim. Aside from the M badges on the exterior, there appears to be no other interior or exterior styling differences from the xDrive50 model, except for the the optional 22" style 1023 wheel that has bronze highlights to match the 3L7 titanium bronze trim option. Another way to look at is: loaded M60 is ~$114k and loaded xDrive50 is ~$105k. The extra $9k buys you extra hp and torque from a larger rear electric motor, a bunch of M badges, and Hans Zimmer sounds unique to the M60, while sacrificing a little bit of driving range and ride quality. Is it worth it? Maybe. I've spent $9k on much worse things full of bad decisions and regret. lol.
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As an EV owner for 5 years, range is king. I will sacrifice speed for range 9 times out of 10, and it's not as if the 50 is slow either. If you only plan on puttering around town with the M60 and showing it off to friends, then sure go ahead, but if you want an all-rounder family car that you plan to take long distances I'd go for the 50. Also in Canada, I specced one out like for like and its a $20K difference lol
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Is this confirmed? I wouldn’t be surprised if the 40, 50 and 60 all have the same motors. Apparently the 40 and the 50 do but the 50 can drive more current through them due to the extra battery capacity. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the 60 is mechanically and electrically identical to the 50 just with more aggressive tuning on the power delivery curves.
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02-18-2022, 07:52 PM | #4 |
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I'm concerned about the loss of range as well. 15% is not trivial.
But given that the various tradeoffs seem to balance, I can see that for me, the iX50 vs M60 purchase decision is going to come down to availability...! Otherwise the M60 seems like the obvious choice. |
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I seriously doubt the 40,50,60 all have the same motors. It's just not that simple, even if it was for cost-cutting purposes at the production line. The xDrive40 at nearly 200hp and 300hp less than the 50 and 60 respectively, just doesn't make sense to have the more powerful electric motors inside only to be "detuned" because not only would the powerful motors cost more, they would also be heavier and perhaps larger. Why unnecessarily add weight to an already heavy EV after they've gone to great lengths to save weight by using carbon composite and aluminum body structures? That wouldn't be consistent with German engineering at all. Even Franciscus van Meel, CEO of BMW M GmbH in the video below suggests that the iX M60 is driven by "two specific M e-drive engines" (watch at 0:43). And look at what Audi had to do just to get another 90hp on their e-tron S model over the base e-tron - they basically employed a tri-motor configuration by replacing the larger single rear motor from base e-tron with 2 of the motors they use for the front of the normal e-tron for a total of 3 motors. If it was as simple as just turning up the current on the same electric motors, they wouldn't have gone to all this trouble.
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Honestly, it does make a lot of sense. It means they only need to create one motor. It saves loads in terms of development and spare parts costs. A single motor for the 40 would likely have been underpowered for a car that size and it would have lost the xdrive moniker which is likely why they kept it to one size. Manufacturers have been doing this for years with the exact same engine just tuned to different levels. With electric motors, they just change the power limits. At best, they might be cherry picking better performing motors for the 50 (and maybe 60) but I doubt it. I don't see anything wrong with this btw and think it's just what will become the norm. Car models within a model line will likely largely scale just by number of battery modules, number of motors and the tuning assigned to the motors. It's way more cost effective that way. |
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I wouldn't be surprised either if they used the "same" motor - just motors capable of being driven faster with more voltage applied (and maybe some power train tweaking). They didn't mention (I don’t think) the battery size for the M60, but perhaps a bigger battery (and/or throttled-up power delivery) makes the M60 faster off the line.
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Doesn’t matter to me either whether or not they use the same motor across the model lineup since I’m likely going for the more powerful variants. But if I were actually in the market for the 40 model, I would be a bit irked if weight savings and range were somehow compromised by not utilizing motors specific to the intended power and torque specs. After all, when it comes to EVs, every little bit of weight savings matters.
Anyhow, I also noticed from this USA pricing guide for the M60 that option code A90 is Dark Graphite Metallic. On the USA pricing guide for the xDrive50 as well as on my ordered xDrive50 build sheet, A90 is Sophisto Grey. So does that mean they are really the same paint color? I thought someone mentioned on another thread that they’re not the same color. Perhaps they just renamed Sophisto Grey to DGM for the US market but forgot to make the name change on the xDrive50’s pricing guides? Confused.
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I am not convinced that iX in any trim is ready for prime time. It's still a transitional vehicle intended to capture early attention from brand loyalists - present company included.
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Don't understand fitting an M badge to these horrid electric monstrosities.
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Assuming the IX's sdrive40 and 50 motors are the same as i4, then the motors are 3-phase. The m60 is a six-phase operated and has a double inverter.
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