[Space Cadet]

This isn’t yet a recall. It’s a Stop Sell, they are different animals.

[Road Trip]

If a BMW EV vehicle has this part leaking, anyone know how complex the repair process is? A simple drop an underbody aero plate, drain the coolant, replace the valve, replace coolant one hour fix or is this a complex, difficult repair?

TU.

[bumpedthemall]

Absolutely gutted, test drove it December 21, ordered Nov 23 and due to get it today, I could have got it Wednesday but decided to wait and now who knows......

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by bumpedthemall

Absolutely gutted, test drove it December 21, ordered Nov 23 and due to get it today, I could have got it Wednesday but decided to wait and now who knows......

Better than paying for it and then returning it for a leak and having it in the shop for who knows how long. Not exactly a confidence inspiring situation. Good luck. I’m lurking this forum as my 3 month old 2024 IX is in shop for this exact issue.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by bumpedthemall

Absolutely gutted, test drove it December 21, ordered Nov 23 and due to get it today, I could have got it Wednesday but decided to wait and now who knows......

You can still have your car delivered. My dealer confirmed today that all the dealerships are offering their customers an option to sign an acknowledgement letter to get their cars with the stop sale released. This applies to all “i” models.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by sundstrom

NY (I live in NJ)

I was offered to sign the same letter from my PA dealer today. He confirmed that BMW NA gave this option to all the dealers, at least in the US.

[DBinOH]

Originally Posted by javapro

Interesting. So, you car has a coolant changeover valve stop sale and they said that if you sign this letter, they will release the car to you?

This seems like a bad idea until we know more about the situation. Accepting the car knowing it has a defective part could potentially come back to bite you personally and financially if something happens in between you signing something that could be construed as a waiver and getting the new valve, which may be months away.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by DBinOH

This seems like a bad idea until we know more about the situation. Accepting the car knowing it has a defective part could potentially come back to bite you personally and financially if something happens in between you signing something that could be construed as a waiver and getting the new valve, which may be months away.

I much agree with you. If the car dumps all its coolant and the HV battery is ruined it is conceivable the owner could be held liable due to negligence (since they knew about the issue). I doubt that would actually happen, but why mess with it. If BMW gets a black eye out of this mess the patient buyer might even end up with a far better deal by waiting.

I might also mention that nothing will diminish the excitement about a new car more than having it sidelined for a number of weeks within the first several months of ownership. That is my situation.

[bumpedthemall]

They let me sign the letter today so happy again.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by bumpedthemall

They let me sign the letter today so happy again.

They let you sign a letter to acknowledge you are receiving a car with a potentially serious defect. Not sure I would count that as a win. Hope it works out for you…

[moeriad]

Hello,

I also had the leak which was visible in temperatures over freezing (5 degrees celcius).

My BMW dealer finally got the part in France and changed it.

Do you know if the newly fabricated parts are improved and have had the leak fixed?

Thanks

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by moeriad

Hello,

I also had the leak which was visible in temperatures over freezing (5 degrees celcius).

My BMW dealer finally got the part in France and changed it.

Do you know if the newly fabricated parts are improved and have had the leak fixed?

Thanks

I would contact your dealer. If you could confirm one way or the other and then post the part number that was replaced. It would be helpful to the rest of us also dealing with this problem. I will have the same question….but I am still awaiting part arrival.

Take care…..

[sundstrom]

just got a call from my dealer that they were able to change out the part and my car is ready for pickup (which i'm doing saturday).

looks like they have replacement parts coming state side for everyone so hopefully will get resolved for all soon.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by sundstrom

just got a call from my dealer that they were able to change out the part and my car is ready for pickup (which i'm doing saturday).

looks like they have replacement parts coming state side for everyone so hopefully will get resolved for all soon.

That is NOT my experience with my IX. Got a phone call today and was told the part is not expected until April 2nd. I’ve got some decisions ahead….

[DBinOH]

Originally Posted by sundstrom

just got a call from my dealer that they were able to change out the part and my car is ready for pickup (which i'm doing saturday).

looks like they have replacement parts coming state side for everyone so hopefully will get resolved for all soon.

Make sure you confirm that this is the NEW replacement part. My dealer said that they may be getting the old models and have suggested replacing them as a stopgap until they can get the redesigned parts. I was not on board with that.

[iamdb]

Signing the waiver may also waive your right to lemon the car later if they can't fix it. Does anyone know if this is a risk to worry about?

[KenG60]

Originally Posted by DBinOH

Make sure you confirm that this is the NEW replacement part. My dealer said that they may be getting the old models and have suggested replacing them as a stopgap until they can get the redesigned parts. I was not on board with that.

At this point I don’t think there is a “New” part. Just the same part different day. Would love to tear one apart

[DBinOH]

Update from my dealer today. They have the part, manufacture date is 1/17/24, so I am going to assume that it's the new one? Stay tuned.

[nioero]

Originally Posted by iamdb

Signing the waiver may also waive your right to lemon the car later if they can't fix it. Does anyone know if this is a risk to worry about?

really? it doesn't saying anything about waiving certain rights. The letter is just an acknowledgement imo.

[DBinOH]

Just got my car back from the dealership today. New valve installed with a 1/17/24 mfg date. Should be good? Fingers crossed.

As for signing that letter, while I can't provide you with legal advice, I am still a lawyer and I would not sign a letter that acknowledges that I'm taking a brand-new car with a known defect on it. Even if you're not waiving rights explicitly, you are taking the car knowingly and if something happens, it could come back to bite you.

[iamdb]

Originally Posted by DBinOH

Just got my car back from the dealership today. New valve installed with a 1/17/24 mfg date. Should be good? Fingers crossed.

Could you ask the service advisor at the dealership? They are the only ones who can give us accurate information.

Originally Posted by DBinOH

As for signing that letter, while I can't provide you with legal advice, I am still a lawyer and I would not sign a letter that acknowledges that I'm taking a brand-new car with a known defect on it. Even if you're not waiving rights explicitly, you are taking the car knowingly and if something happens, it could come back to bite you.

(Not a lawyer) I agree. I think of Lemon Law as a protection against unknown defects in a new car. By signing the waiver, the defect becomes "KNOWN" to you, so I'm not sure if the Lemon Law protection still applies.

In any case, I have an iX xDrive50 in production, so I asked my dealer about the stop sale. They said the car is in production and there's no stop sale on it, so all is good!

[DBinOH]

[QUOTE=iamdb;30890435]Could you ask the service advisor at the dealership? They are the only ones who can give us accurate information.

I was dealing directly with the Service Manager. He said that he's being told by BMW that post 1/4/24 production is good.