[Paladin1]

Nothing on the MB configurator in the US, but I optioned a dual-motor EQS with (somewhat) similar features to an iX, and was looking at about $130k MSRP. I'd suggest that as a baseline for the comparable SUV, potentially (and likely) to go up with additional options, and up a lot if dealers elect to add to that. Different price range than the iX line almost certainly, but also almost certainly will include features not available in the iX (fully optioned front passenger seat for example - I haven't seen any "deletes" in the MB summary for advertised features) - but as noted a longer wait. Mercedes OS, Mercedes styling, so personal preferences matter - most reviewers seem to prefer at least BMW's OS. Likely a pretty luxurious SUV, with a price to match and the quirks of the breed, which MB owners may not mind and even prefer. To each.

[hugo_nz]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

Nothing on the MB configurator in the US, but I optioned a dual-motor EQS with (somewhat) similar features to an iX, and was looking at about $130k MSRP. I'd suggest that as a baseline for the comparable SUV, potentially (and likely) to go up with additional options, and up a lot if dealers elect to add to that. Different price range than the iX line almost certainly, but also almost certainly will include features not available in the iX (fully optioned front passenger seat for example - I haven't seen any "deletes" in the MB summary for advertised features) - but as noted a longer wait. Mercedes OS, Mercedes styling, so personal preferences matter - most reviewers seem to prefer at least BMW's OS. Likely a pretty luxurious SUV, with a price to match and the quirks of the breed, which MB owners may not mind and even prefer. To each.

Based on expected UK price (starting at GBP110000) it's around GBP10000 more expensive than the EQS and GBP40000 more than the iX. Price wise it's not even in the same ballpark as the iX.

[LittleJoe]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

UK pricing is available and entry level price (starting at GBP110000) is around GBP10000 more expensive than the EQS and GBP40000 more than the iX. Price wise it's not even in the same ballpark as the iX.

UK pricing for what? The yet to be released EQS 580 SUV? Come on.

[07e92]

Interesting discussion, because when I test drove EQS580 at max re-gen, it did not come to a completely stop at a red light after releasing the acceleration pedal; it required me to step on the brake at the very last moment, also had to keep my foot on the brake, otherwise, it would roll. May be there were settings that I missed. The brake pedal pressed itself is another awkward encounter. I might have to go back and do another test drive with deeper dive.

Originally Posted by LittleJoe

I test drove an EQS 450+ and definitely does "one-pedal driving". That fellow seems insecure about the new EQS 580 SUV for some reason so he's trolling. To each his own but I no need to troll others just because they prefer another brand. Keep it civil guys.

[hugo_nz]

Originally Posted by LittleJoe

UK pricing for what? The yet to be released EQS 580 SUV? Come on.

Chill out. Based on CarWow report and they are pretty much bang on the money with price estimates: https://www.carwow.co.uk/mercedes/ne...ease-date#gref

"Mercedes hasn’t confirmed exactly how much the new EQS SUV will cost, but it has said you can expect it to set you back around £10,000 more than the equivalent EQS saloon."

Either way - more expensive than EQS is a given - EQS is already more expensive than iX...so? Still not comparing apples with apples.

[JonoNZ]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

Chill out. Based on CarWow report and they are pretty much bang on the money with price estimates: https://www.carwow.co.uk/mercedes/ne...ease-date#gref

"Mercedes hasn’t confirmed exactly how much the new EQS SUV will cost, but it has said you can expect it to set you back around £10,000 more than the equivalent EQS saloon."

Either way - more expensive than EQS is a given - EQS SUV is already more expensive than iX...so? Still not comparing apples with apples.

Yep, they will be in different price categories for sure. Most won't cross shop these in much detail, but in NZ when some iX models are $200K+, $230K+ people will look up and down at competitors. The EQS SUV is a competitor to the iX7 really, for someone with the money and the need for 7 seats it looks like a really nice option.

What is really great is the options for electric SUVs with good range and good build quality is really starting to open up. That is exciting to me.

[LittleJoe]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

Chill out. Based on CarWow report and they are pretty much bang on the money with price estimates: https://www.carwow.co.uk/mercedes/ne...ease-date#gref

"Mercedes hasn’t confirmed exactly how much the new EQS SUV will cost, but it has said you can expect it to set you back around £10,000 more than the equivalent EQS saloon."

Either way - more expensive than EQS is a given - EQS is already more expensive than iX...so? Still not comparing apples with apples.

Just saying that comparing pricing is BS since no one in the UK or any other country knows the pricing yet. MB hasn't released anything on pricing yet for the EQS SUV. Just keeping it real. And I don't fault anyone for wanting the iX, I'm buying one also but see no need to defend the iX against the EQS SUV. It's just another option for those who want a luxurious 7-seater SUV.

[760Lifan]

True that the pricing hasn't been announced yet....BUT...looking at the EQS sedan, we are already looking at $140K.

It doesn't take rocket science to come to the conclusion that the fully loaded EQS SUV will NOT be less.

The EQS SUV has a few features the iX lacks but compared to an iX M60, the BMW has the better performance.

I just don't see how an additional +$30K for the EQS are justified.

[LittleJoe]

Originally Posted by 760Lifan

True that the pricing hasn't been announced yet....BUT...looking at the EQS sedan, we are already looking at $140K.

It doesn't take rocket science to come to the conclusion that the fully loaded EQS SUV will NOT be less.

The EQS SUV has a few features the iX lacks but compared to an iX M60, the BMW has the better performance.

I just don't see how an additional +$30K for the EQS are justified.

Good news, you don't have to buy a 7-seater luxury EQS SUV. 😂😂😂

[LittleJoe]

[patbrass]

I'm just happy there are many GREAT EV options for SUVs now! It used to be just the Model X.

Now, the iX is awesome. The EQS is pretty awesome too. Looking forward to the Polestar 3.

Oh and the Rivian R1S.

Heck, the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are also quite interesting.

Exciting times!

[Bird~Dawg]

Originally Posted by patbrass

I'm just happy there are many GREAT EV options for SUVs now! It used to be just the Model X.

Now, the iX is awesome. The EQS is pretty awesome too. Looking forward to the Polestar 3.

Heck, the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are also quite interesting.

Exciting times!

Watching that video just reminded me how much I dislike the centre console in the iX. The cup holders will surely drive me mad. The two level console design that extends all the way to the dash like in the EQS is better imho. I'm betting on an after market add on dual cup holder for the iX that will attach at the front of the top level where that cellphone slot is. Hopefully a decent quality supplier like Thule or Weathertech will make one. Either that or I succumb to German ideology and banish drinks from the car!

[Paladin1]

Interesting question on the iX cupholders. I've wondered if there are complicated electronics underneath that object to getting wet - like the current crop of X5/6/7 cupholders that seem to short out the entire car with a minor coffee spill. If not, that's a positive step forward in spite of the location. I don't mind shampooing carpet or wiping off a rubber mat....

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

Interesting question on the iX cupholders. I've wondered if there are complicated electronics underneath that object to getting wet - like the current crop of X5/6/7 cupholders that seem to short out the entire car with a minor coffee spill. If not, that's a positive step forward in spite of the location. I don't mind shampooing carpet or wiping off a rubber mat....

Surely the cup holders in the iX are for bottles and not for hot drinks, so that's a fail.

Cleverer people have been able to create waterproof seals, so if that's the reason, it's a poor one.

I suspect it was done to give a more open front cabin, stretch your legs out etc.

[760Lifan]

Originally Posted by LittleJoe

Good news, you don't have to buy a 7-seater luxury EQS SUV. 😂😂😂

True - after all, that's quite an expensive 3rd row...

[760Lifan]

Originally Posted by patbrass

I'm just happy there are many GREAT EV options for SUVs now! It used to be just the Model X.

Now, the iX is awesome. The EQS is pretty awesome too. Looking forward to the Polestar 3.

Oh and the Rivian R1S.

Heck, the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are also quite interesting.

Exciting times!

Absolutely!

In the next 1-2 years, you can add a Genesis GV70, a GV90 and even a Grand Wagoneer EV to that list. Or a Lincoln Mark E and an Aviator EV.

[TechCTU]

i7 reviewed today. Looks great, if the ix7 gets this design I would go for this over the EQS SUV. I like the shape and design much more than the EQS.

Lots of great choices!

[rccarps2]

Originally Posted by TechCTU

i7 reviewed today. Looks great, if the ix7 gets this design I would go for this over the EQS SUV. I like the shape and design much more than the EQS.

Lots of great choices!

iX7? Did I miss an announcement or future vehicle post/article? I just wished they had come out with a PHEV X7 in the LCI.

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by TechCTU

i7 reviewed today. Looks great, if the ix7 gets this design I would go for this over the EQS SUV. I like the shape and design much more than the EQS.

Lots of great choices!

2023 - and with the CLAR platform it looks like a choice of 3 power trains: petrol/diesel, PHEV or all electric. The future is upon us....

[rccarps2]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

2023 - and with the CLAR platform it looks like a choice of 3 power trains: petrol/diesel, PHEV or all electric. The future is upon us....

I assume you are referencing the new 7, not iX7? I am aware of the various electric versions of the new 7.

I am curious to an iX7, as mentioned above. As I have never heard/read anything of validity regarding that model.

New 7 series - Intro models: worldwide 735i (B58U2, 282hp), 740i (B58M2, 370hp), 760ix (S68, 535hp), i7 xDrive50 (535hp); US 740i, 760ix, i7 xDrive50.

X7 LCI - Will get the refreshed B57, B58 and the new S68 engines.

[NomoTesla]

A shared ICE/EV platform is not the future. It is a compromise driven by financial considerations at a company that, misguidedly, still sees ICE as very much a part of its future. All of the i7's innovations and beautiful interior design are ruined the moment one sees the transmission tunnel in the back row. Any car with that tunnel is a compromised platform plagued with vestiges from the ICE world.

It's like sitting down to a beautiful new touch screen computer that needs a floppy drive. Nope. The future is purpose-built EV platforms that share little with their ICE counterparts. One doesn't move forward in a meaningful way while carrying baggage from the past. I find this quite surprising from a brand that prides itself on engineering. This is not good engineering.

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by rccarps2

I assume you are referencing the new 7, not iX7? I am aware of the various electric versions of the new 7.

I am curious to an iX7, as mentioned above. As I have never heard/read anything of validity regarding that model.

New 7 series - Intro models: worldwide 735i (B58U2, 282hp), 740i (B58M2, 370hp), 760ix (S68, 535hp), i7 xDrive50 (535hp); US 740i, 760ix, i7 xDrive50.

X7 LCI - Will get the refreshed B57, B58 and the new S68 engines.

Correct, but we can probably assume the iX7 will have the same CLAR platform for good or ill (since BMW says the iX40/50/60 is "one of" for that platform) - and unlike Audi have not committed to discontinuing ICE design and engineering. Probably not 2023 though, although they seem to be going full speed with electric....