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BMW denies claims it will abandon internal combustion engines
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12-19-2023, 05:19 AM | #2 |
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They better not. Audi is certainly realizing not everyone wants an EV.
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12-19-2023, 08:46 AM | #3 |
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Look how successful Toyota has been staying with their hybrids and not going full speed into an EV lineup.
IMHO, EV’s have a long way to go before the majority of car buyers will make this change. Internal combustion engines will be here for a while! |
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12-19-2023, 09:39 AM | #4 |
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I think anything about EV, abandoning ICE engines, is just sensationalism pipe dreams that have no logical plan. marketing and campaign schemes at its finest. I am all for both, but to have only one is not feasible due to infrastructure in my lifetime. Thus again, marketing and campaign schemes.
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12-19-2023, 09:49 AM | #5 |
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I'd give the EU a big FU and produce the first BMW twin engine V8 Supercar.
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12-19-2023, 11:34 AM | #6 |
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Big gubment threw global automakers a lifeline and sold them on a disposable car platform that had higher margins, less warranty claims and substantially more long term profitability based on the "phone" model of getting a new one every few years. Most of them jumped at the chance, in lockstep, with zero customer data, very little infrastructure, and very little applicable technology to support such a move. And here we are, with most of them eating crow because the demand does not even come close to supporting EVs on a mass scale. BMW and anyone else that was foolish enough to buy into EVs deserves everything coming to them and if their boards had any shred of credibility, we should be seeing a wave of CEO removals because of it.
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12-22-2023, 05:04 PM | #7 |
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Let the congregation say Amen. Do not want no electric motor unless it is to help my turbo lag.
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12-22-2023, 05:06 PM | #8 |
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Thank god. I cant afford an m car YET. I sure don’t want an electric bmw that isnt manual when the time does come😅
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12-22-2023, 06:16 PM | #9 |
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Forcing EV's on everyone is backfiring big time. I hope more manufacturers (including BMW) do what Toyota is doing and invest in Hybrids.
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12-22-2023, 06:25 PM | #10 |
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They don’t have much of a choice unless California and others walk back the 2035 ban.
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12-22-2023, 06:27 PM | #11 |
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I bet that happens. Or at the very least they "extend" the deadline.
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12-22-2023, 06:38 PM | #12 |
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12-22-2023, 07:01 PM | #13 |
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If a new administration comes to power in the US- they can reverse this 2035 deadline. I’m all for a choice- but a ban on a technology that could run on synthetic fuel or seaweed (read that today Mazda is pioneering this fuel that works with their engines) boggles my mind.
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12-22-2023, 07:22 PM | #14 |
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That’s why Cali can have all the Tesla’s manufactured and have a brown out when everyone plugs in to charge. Then there will be alternate charging days based on house number, even number on even days and odd number on odd days.
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12-22-2023, 07:39 PM | #15 |
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This cannot be declared a better technology than just continuing to perfect ICE/Hybrid drivetrain.. I mean it's basically a big back pedal in the concept of a personal transportaion vehicle 🙄
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Hydrogen powered is interesting as BMW has been developing this technology for decades.
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Not only that though… while the world is losing their minds over EVs, Toyota casually rolled out the the 86, the GR Supra, and the GR Yaris in relatively quick succession. And I’ve read that they’re considering the MR2 as well. It’s really quite impressive when you consider that they did that while making the new Prius car of the year again. A lot of other manufacturers should take notes.
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12-22-2023, 08:33 PM | #19 |
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BMW hedging now that ICE bans have been pushed out. However don't be fooled. Will BMW develop a new engine? Will BMW phase out their V8's? That's when we'll know what's really going on.
From past reports out of BMW the B-seriee engines are the last that BMW will build. IMO with emissions and CAFE requirements it's only a matter of time the V8s give way to I6 and I6 give way to the he I4. All will be hybrid power trains and we may end up with only I4 or God forbid I3.
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They will. You think California is just going to have no cars? Give me a break. That’s just politicians voting for things that sound cool, while they’ll never be the ones having to actually back it up.
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