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      12-08-2017, 12:45 PM   #1
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Supercar or not ?

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I didn't mean to be bashed here and yes, I'm an owner of an i8. Now that I have a car for a handful of months, I'm coming into a realization that my definition of what a supercar is was vastly different before I got the car vs now. The doors alone of the i8 made me think this was a supercar.

Looks Department - Supercar (checked)
Cost - Supercar (checked)
Platform/Technology - Supercar (Checked)
Performance - Supercar (Unchecked)
Sound - Supercar (Unchecked)

So what I wanted to see is if you consider the i8 as a supercar ?


My friends/acquaintances keeps saying that the i8 is a modern sportscar but not even close to a supercar.
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      12-08-2017, 01:11 PM   #2
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Not a super car. Performance is lacking and secondary prices make it too accessible.
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Not a super car. Performance is lacking and secondary prices make it too accessible.
I'm not disagreeing with you but performance/price shouldn't be the only factors. By your logic, do you consider a used Nissan GTR (easily had for $60k) a supercar since their performance hasn't changed since they came out for the most part? Or how about a $60k Hellcat, or Z06? Or Tesla P100D?
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I don't consider any of those super cars except possibly a Z06 but even then, no, not quite.
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I don't consider any of those super cars except possibly a Z06 but even then, no, not quite.
What keeps a Tesla P100D from being a supercar? Do you consider a used Lamborghini Gallardo ($90-100k) a supercar? Or Audi R8 V8 ($70-80k)?
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Are you actually implying the Tesla is a super car? Or are you just trying to get me to expand upon my post?
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Are you actually implying the Tesla is a super car? Or are you just trying to get me to expand upon my post?
I'm just looking for you to provide details on how you classify what a supercar is and isn't. A P100D outperforms most exotic cars in the short run but obviously has a "low" max speed (155mph I think), so does its looks rule it out of being a supercar? Or the top speed? Or can supercars simply not be a sedan or have practical value?

Same reason I asked about the Gallardo and R8, I want to see what your logic classifies them as, and not just yours, but anyone's really. McLaren MP4-12C, $130k used, same question: supercar or not? McLaren 570s used - $150k

Finally, do you consider the new Acura NSX a supercar? If you do, then how is the Nissan GTR not considered one?

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In the grand schema of things, the "supercar" topic is very subjective depending on the crowd you talk to.

If you look at the video reviews from motortrend, edmunds, kbb, etc, they refer to the i8 as a supercar.

but if you ask folks that have/had expensive cars, such as f cars, lambo, mclarens, etc, they would say "hell no".


I personally do not consider porsche GT3's, TTs supercars although from a performance and pricing standpoint, they are.


Tesla is not a supercar in my book. It's fast. Its expensive. But they are not. They do not have a wow factor from a spectator perspective.


Here's what I want to think (this is me). It's a supercar if the doors open up... lol. otherwise, it's not a supercar. hahahaha
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Are you actually implying the Tesla is a super car? Or are you just trying to get me to expand upon my post?
I'm just looking for you to provide details on how you classify what a supercar is and isn't. A P100D outperforms most exotic cars in the short run but obviously has a "low" max speed (155mph I think), so does its looks rule it out of being a supercar? Or the top speed? Or can supercars simply not be a sedan or have practical value?

Same reason I asked about the Gallardo and R8, I want to see what your logic classifies them as, and not just yours, but anyone's really. McLaren MP4-12C, $130k used, same question: supercar or not? McLaren 570s used - $150k

Finally, do you consider the new Acura NSX a supercar? If you do, then how is the Nissan GTR not considered one?
A Tesla is a Sedan. It's not a super car. A Gallardo certainly wasn't $80k 3 years after it was released. Neither was an R8 V10. You can't compare pricing of a 10 year old car to a currently produced car.
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Do you consider the new NSX a super car?
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Do you consider the new NSX a super car?
Yes. It checks everybox. If they're worth $70k next year I'll re-evaluate my opinion but I don't think that will happen. It's a special car.
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Yes. It checks everybox. If they're worth $70k next year I'll re-evaluate my opinion but I don't think that will happen. It's a special car.
Ok, so what does the NSX have that a Nissan GTR does not? The GTR is also quicker stock for stock and modded vs. modded (at much less cost)

Also, If you don’t think a base GTR qualifies, then what about a $200k Nismo?

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I don't want to hijack the OPs thread any longer
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I don’t consider this a hijack at all; it’s a valid argument and conversation where I’m just playing devil’s advocate. I think it’s interesting that you dodge the NSX/GTR comparison since it’s the most relevant question that puts things in perspective
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It's gone from "is the i8 a supercar?" To you questioning whether a Tesla Model S or Nissan GTR is. That's a hijack.
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It certainly turns as many heads or even more heads than your average supercar, and that’s one of the thing that people (owners and non-owners) love about a supercar.

I assure you more causal observers would flock more to the i8 than the NSX.
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I could park them side by side and find out.
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The year the i8 was released (2014) there was also the R8 V8 out at the moment which is slower. Not one person I’ve ever met has said the R8 V8 is not a super car, nor any magazine, if anything some mags have called it an “entry level” supercar, but supercar none the less. So then why wouldn’t the i8 which is faster and just as good looking if not better be considered a supercar? Just because it’s not on par HP wise with other modern “supercars” I don’t think it’s disqualified from supercar status.

Imho I think it’s the whole package that decides whether a car is to be considered a supercar or not, the i8 I believe is the future of supercars. It was just the first out there in its price point to do what it did and reason enough as to why it’s slow compared to others, it’s unique hybrid supercar segment will only move on up from here.
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I have an i8 but in no way do I consider it a supercar. The proper category would be "exotic car". Then, it would be in its element.
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Even if some attributes would fit to a "classic" supercar I would say it's not.
It is an experiment.
You have to get this first before comparing i8-apples to Lambo-oranges.

It's unique in design and concept.
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I Had the car for 1 year and 9 months and it does checks lots of boxes but the supercar box is a no..
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Hi, i agree and I8 while a nice car is not a "supercar". Lamborghini's and Ferrari's are supercar. Before buying the I8 you should have hired one from https://www.pbsupercars.com , woudl have saved you a lot of money!!
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